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    Have been ing

    1. She is a good tennis player. She has been playing since she was eight.
    2. She is a good tennis player. She has played since she was eight

    What is the different between 1 and 2?

    Grammartically, Both of them are correct. (Just my opinion)

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    #2

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    I see no difference between the present perfect and the present perfect continuous in this context, but I am not a teacher.

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    #3

    Re: Have been ing

    Quote Originally Posted by chingchangchong View Post
    1. She is a good tennis player. She has been playing since she was eight.
    2. She is a good tennis player. She has played since she was eight

    What is the difference between 1 and 2?

    Grammatically, both of them are correct. (Just my opinion.)
    2 is ungrammatical as it lacks a full stop (period).

    I agree with Matthew.

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    #4

    Re: Have been ing

    I'd consider 1 to be more natural, at least in speech.

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    #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I'd consider 1 to be more natural, at least in speech.
    May I ask why you think so?
    Thank you.

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    #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    May I ask why you think so?
    Thank you.
    Because it's what I'd say.
    No, that's not right. I'd say it because it's more natural. This is based on 50+ years of speaking native English. How else can you say whether something sounds more natural or not? I also note that three respected members and commentators seem to agree with me, but that obviously can't be why I think so.
    If you want something concrete, 2 sounds stilted, formal, and non-native. It sounds like something an English learner who isn't quite confident with the present perfect continuous would say.

    Do you understand something different by what "sounding natural" means?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Do you understand something different by what "sounding natural" means?
    I'm afraid not. I think we, non-native speakers, have to learn natural English expressions/constructions one by one.
    Anyway, I've been learning a lot from you. Thank you. I'll try my best to acquire as much natural English as possible.

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    #8

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    In this case, since the tennis playing is ongoing, the continuous "playing" is more natural.

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    #9

    Re: Have been ing

    I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.
    For me the second one sounds wrong. I might be wrong but I think Present Perfect tense is good for a sentence without a definite time, whereas Present Perfect Progressive uses with a time expression. It might be an hour or an another action to compare with.

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    #10

    Re: Have been ing

    While I prefer the continuous verb, I don't agree that the present perfect is wrong.

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