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    #1

    clauses

    1. 'I know what is good.'
    2. 'I know who is good.'
    Here 'What is good' and 'who is good' must be noun clauses.therefore I think we can use these noun clauses as subject.

    e.g.1. what is good is learning english.
    2.Who is clever at mathematics must be jhon.

    Are these sentences (grammatically) correct? and can we use clauses which start with 'who' as subject of verb?
    e.g.1. Who is clever at mathematics must be jhon.
    2. Who designed this building ought to be shot.

    or Must these clauses be like,
    1.the man who is clever at mathematics ...............
    2.the person who designed this building........ ?
    Last edited by Dinusha; 17-Sep-2014 at 10:56.

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    Re: clauses

    Quote Originally Posted by Dinusha View Post

    1. 'I know what is good.'
    2. 'I know who is good.'
    Here 'What is good' and 'who is good' must be noun clauses.therefore I think we can use these noun clauses as subject.

    e.g.1. What is good is learning English.
    2.Who is clever at mathematics must be John. See my Reply

    Are these sentences (grammatically) correct? and can we use clauses which start with 'who' as subject of verb?
    e.g.1. Who is clever at mathematics must be jhon.
    2. Who designed this building ought to be shot.

    or Must these clauses be like,
    1.the man who clever at mathematics ...............
    2.the person who designed this building........ ?
    I stopped doing corrections because I'm short of time

    Although I don't know how (or whether) to fault the 'Who is clever...' form, it certainly doesn't sound right - except possibly in a context where 'I'll tell you...It's....' is implied.

    Incidentally, re your last examples, some tricky collocations: 'He must be mad' (probability) but 'He should be shot' (hyperbole). Saying 'He must be shot' sounds as though you're issuing an order (compulsion, not probability!)

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    Re: clauses

    thank you for your reply!

    Can you tell me what clause can be used as subject of verb?

    1.Who is clever at mathematics(is john.) or
    2.The man who is clever at mathematics (is john.)
    Last edited by Dinusha; 17-Sep-2014 at 11:21.

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    Re: clauses

    2. Who designed this building ought to be shot.
    1.the man who clever at mathematics ...............
    2.the person who designed this building........ ?

    #2 is expressed as "Whoever designed this building ought to be shot."
    #1. The person/the one who is clever at maths ..."
    #2. Yes, "The person ..."
    As Bob said, "What is good ..." is quite acceptable, but we normally don't say "Who is good ..."

    PS: An ellipsis is three dots, not 13 or anything else; and it's better not to have four sentences all labelled 2. in your post. It makes it harder rather than easier to refer back to them. You could write 2a, 2b etc.

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    #5

    Re: clauses

    May I simply say 'The one clever at mathematics is John'?

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    Re: clauses

    Yes, that could work.

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