Can you say: The rent was paid to December 1st. Meaning we have to move out before

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Can you say:

The rent was paid to December 1st.



Meaning we have to move out before that date.
 

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Do you mean the rent was paid for a tenancy until December 1st?

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That sentence says nothing about moving out.
 

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Try:
The rent was paid through November 30th. The apartment will be vacant on December 1st.

Or:
The rent was paid to the end of the month. We will move out on November 30th.

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How did you arrive there from that sentence?
 

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Can you say:

The rent was paid to December 1st.



Meaning we have to move out before that date.


The OP wanted to know if we can say "The rent was paid to December 1st" under the condition that they move out before that date.

In actuality, if he/she were to move out before Dec 1st, their lease would have ended on November 30th (a normal end-date for a monthly lease-term agreement). It is the actual day on which the tenant must finish moving all personal property out of the apartment.

So, I proposed saying "The rent was paid through November 30th" which is consistent with such an agreement. The vacancy statement is to assure the landlord that the apartment will be empty on December 1st.

I also suggested the second set of sentences, which more directly specifies the final move-out date of November 30th.

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It is on December 1st that the landlord regains possession of the property and can legally enter the apartment without permission. In the laws of my state, any personal property left behind by the tenant still belong to the tenant for 30 days. If the tenant does not claim possession of said personal property within 30 days, the landlord takes possession of that personal property.
 

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"The rent was (has been) paid to December 1st" would suggest to me that December 1st is, currently, the last day that the tenants can live there. If the tenants must move out on November 30th, then the rent has been paid (up) to November 30th. Presumably, if it's not too late, the tenant could now choose to hand over more money if they want to stay there longer. As Mike said, the sentence on its own does not have to mean that anyone has to move out of anywhere. It is simply a statement of fact to do with the payment of rent.
 

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But the OP also said "meaning we have to move out before that date", which is inconsistent with the first statement.

Perhaps the OP can clarify.


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We have to move out because we have no money to pay for rent after December 1st.
 

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Are you allowed to be on the premises on December 1st?



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We have only paid the rent up to November [the] 30th. We have to move out by December 1st.
We can only afford the rent up to November [the] 30th. We have to move out that day.

There are lots of ways of saying the information you've given us.
 

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Didn't ask.

If that was an answer to "Are you allowed to be on the premises after ...?" then please remember to quote the question with your answer, especially when another post (in this case, post #12) has separated the two. Also remember that full sentences are encouraged here so "I didn't ask" would have been acceptable.
 
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