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    A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he was

    A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say:

    Why did you say he was Japanese?

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    Why did you say he is Japanese?

    Are both okay?

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    Yes.

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    What's the difference between both usages?

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    There is no difference in perceived meaning.

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    what do you mean by perceived meaning?

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    The meaning perceived by the person being addressed.

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    If anybody thinks there's a difference, they'd have said so by now.

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    Not necessarily so, Rover. The thread spans only 6-7 hours.

    In fact, I think the appropriate immediate response is "Why do you say he is Japanese?". After a certain period of time "Why did you say ... [whatever]" would be more appropriate.

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    On another forum, someone found the present tense in the sentence below unacceptable.
    'Yesterday, the mayor said that the government deems it necessary to carry out the project.'
    Why is the simple present OK in the OP's sentence but not in this, while both are in reported speech?

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    Re: A man walks in and my friend tells me he's Japanese. I say: Why did you say he

    "Why is the simple present OK in the OP's sentence but not in this, while both are in reported speech?"
    Because if he was Japanese, he is Japanese. That doesn't necessarily occur in all reported speech, so they are not analogous sentences.
    ('Deems' is not necessarily wrong in the imported sentence. As we often say, back shifting is (almost) always correct; but that doesn't imply that you have to do it.)

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