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Upon entering, proceed to the sign-in table and present your __________________ form to one of the conference administrators.
(A) registering
(B) registration
(C) register
(D) to register

The answer is (B),But why not do (A)
In back of space,"form" as a objective should be modified by gerund.
I think (A) should be the best answer.
Who someone could tell me why (B) is the best answer?
 

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B is the only adjective.
Some verbs can be changed to adjectives by additing 'ing' but not 'register'.

P.S. 'Registering' can also be an adjective but not in the context.
 
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In this case "registration" is an attributive noun. It acts as an adjective that modifies "form". It becomes a form for registration. If you use "registering", it is a participle which could be an adjective. But it would leave us with a form that is registering. Forms don't register.
 
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A similar example would be an 'application form' - not "applying form".
They are compound nouns, aren't they?
 

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'Registering people have to submit the form by the deadline.'
Is it correct?

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No, it goes with the people who are responsible for the registration i.e. registering authority, registering officer.

Registrant is also a word.

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'People who wish to register have to ...' sounds more natural to me.
(The 'people' in your version looks/sounds like the object of the gerund 'registering'.)
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In this case "registration" is an attributive noun. It acts as an adjective that modifies "form". It becomes a form for registration. If you use "registering", it is a participle which could be an adjective. But it would leave us with a form that is registering. Forms don't register.
According to this result, why revolving door can not be called revolution door ?
 

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According to this result, why revolving door can not be called revolution door ?

This is a good question.

With doors alone, there are different types. There is revolving door, swing door (why not swinging door?), sliding door, roller shutter door, foldable door, collapsible door, etc.

I don't think that there is a definite rule/pattern as to the use of verb derivatives as adjectives.

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This is a good question.

With doors alone, there are different types. There is revolving door, swing door (why not swinging door?), sliding door, roller shutter door, foldable door, collapsible door, etc.

I don't think that there is a definite rule/pattern as to the use of verb derivatives as adjectives.

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Are those specific rule in english?
 

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According to this result, why revolving door can not be called revolution door ?
Because the door is for entrance instead of revolution, IMO.

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In back of space,"form" as a objective should be modified by gerund.
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It's very unlikely that TOEIC, which stands for 'Test of English for International Communication', is set to test grammar skills. Indeed, many learners like doing grammar because it gives a certain sense of achievement but in exams grammar analyses can be very time-consuming. By contrast, a lot of time could be saved by simply ticking a familiar phrase. Such common collocations like 'registration/application form', 'board meeting', 'assistant director' and plenty of others can easily be picked up while excessive reading and listening, which some candidates surprisingly tend to ignore.

On a more 'linguistic' note, it's typical of English to use nouns to describe other nouns, e.g. 'school uniform', 'house work', 'programme manager'...
 

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According to this result, why revolving door can not be called revolution door ?
A form doesn't register, as MikeNewYork pointed out, but a door does revolves. We use a form to complete our registration but we don't [normally] use doors to complete/make a revolution, at least not for this purpose. It all seems not so much about grammar but about the meaning.
 
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I agree. I would spell it as 'housework', though.
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I agree. I would spell it as 'housework', though.
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Yes, so would I. Not the best example probably but it usually helps to see the pattern.
 
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