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    #1

    the subject of "considered"

    What is the subject of "considered" in the following, iPhone or Chinese labor?

    The iPhone assembled in China, for example, wholesales at about $180. While considered a Chinese export, Chinese labor accounts for only about $6.50 of its cost.

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    The subject is iPhone obviously (you can also argue that it refers to Chinese labour) but it would be clearer to write : While it is considered a Chinese product ...

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    #3

    Re: the subject of "considered"

    It's a dangling modifier.
    The iPhone is considered a Chinese export, but only about...
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    The dangling modifier is removed by rewriting the sentences:

    The iPhone assembled in China, for example, wholesales at about $180 and is considered a Chinese export. However, Chinese labor accounts for only about $6.50 of its cost.

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    (you can also argue that it refers to Chinese labour)
    As the products were assembled by Chinese labor in China, how can one consider the labor an export, which should refer to 'a product that is sold to another country' according to http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/export_1

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    As the products were assembled by Chinese labor in China, how can one consider the labor an export, which should refer to 'a product that is sold to another country' according to http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/export_1

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    We are talking about sentence structure here, not about the logic.
    If there are better ways to construct the same sentences, why not?

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    We are talking about sentence structure here, not about the logic.
    Logic can help unravel an ambiguous sentence structure.

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    If there are better ways to construct the same sentences, why not?
    I agree.

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Logic can help unravel an ambiguous sentence structure.

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    It doesn't change the fact that it is a dangling modifier.

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    The fact is that the dangling modifier is not confusing due to the logic.

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    Re: the subject of "considered"

    Depending on what came before, I would put "for example" at the beginning.

    For example; the iPhone, which is assembled in China, wholesales for about $180. While the iPhone is considered a Chinese export, Chinese labor accounts for only about $6.50 of its cost.


    In my view, a product is considered an import if it is not "made in the U.S.A." That includes products which are manufactured and assembled in another country and shipped to the U.S. My Levi's pants were designed by Levi Strauss and Company and manufactured in Egypt. Yes, Egypt. To me, they are imported pants. Yes, that iPhone is an imported product. Even Apple will not put "Made in U.S.A." on the iPhone or the iPad.

    Imported does not necessarily mean it has to be "sold" from the importing country. I bought my 2002 Toyota Camry in the U.S. But, it was manufactured and imported from Japan. I know this because it has a "J" at the front of the serial number. BTW, it has never broken down on the road and drives about the same as the day I bought it. (The MPG is a little lower though.)
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