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    #1

    even ones

    "Mario has starred in hundreds of video games, even ones that don't make sense."
    Is "even" correct? What is surprising in these words?

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    #2

    Re: even ones

    Yes, "even" works there.

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    #3

    Re: even ones

    There is nothing surprising.

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    #4

    Re: even ones

    ... except a general expectation of common sense. I have no knowledge of these games, but my understading is that sometimes they involved activities that didn't make a lot of sense - as, for example, in an early release of Facebook that allowed one to throw a sheep at a friend. One wondered 'Why?'

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    #5

    Re: even ones

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    There is nothing surprising.
    If nothing is surprising, may I use 'including' instead of 'even'?

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    #6

    Re: even ones

    Yes.

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    #7

    Re: even ones

    'Even' is also used to emphasize something unexpected, according to http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie...english/even_1
    Perhaps the speaker did not expect that Mario would star in video games that didn't make sense.

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    #8

    Re: even ones

    I think I have found the reason why "even" and "though" have same meaning in my native language. They're same but mean different.

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