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    for the benefit of

    Hi, people.

    The President receives the China's ambassador at the Presidential Palace. Is it correct to use the underlined expression in this sentence?

    "The President wished Ambassador Tian Erlong success for the benefit of the two friendly countries and peoples."

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    Re: for the benefit of

    When you wish somebody success, the 'for the benefit' part is redundant because success brings benefits obviously.
    You just say you wish people success in whatever things they do.

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    Re: for the benefit of

    We don't really know what the success is about. If it is some sort of program or initiative that benefits the countries and peoples, this could be appropriate.

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    Re: for the benefit of

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    When you wish somebody success, the 'for the benefit' part is redundant because success brings benefits obviously.
    You just say you wish people success in whatever things they do.

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    Yes, but the President wants to stress that the ambassador's success will serve the needs of the two peoples.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    We don't really know what the success is about. If it is some sort of program or initiative that benefits the countries and peoples, this could be appropriate.
    This is just a general wish, and there is not any specific program or initiative.

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    #5

    Re: for the benefit of

    Quote Originally Posted by Mher View Post


    The President receives the China's ambassador at the Presidential Palace.


    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Mher:

    Do I assume correctly (that) that sentence is a cutline (caption) under a photograph?

    May I respectfully point out that it should read "receives China's ambassador." There should be no "the."



    James


    P.S. But it would be correct to say: "... receives the Chinese ambassador."

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    Re: for the benefit of

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Mher:

    Do I assume correctly (that) that sentence is a cutline (caption) under a photograph?

    May I respectfully point out that it should read "receives China's ambassador." There should be no "the."



    James


    P.S. But it would be correct to say: "... receives the Chinese ambassador."
    No, it is not a caption, but you are right about the omission of the definite article. Thanks.

    PS: Thank you for the new word "caption."

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    Re: for the benefit of

    Or it could say "the Chinese Ambassador".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: for the benefit of

    Quote Originally Posted by Mher View Post
    Yes, but the President wants to stress that the ambassador's success will serve the needs of the two peoples.


    ....
    OK, so you don't think tedmc's version says enough. What you want to express doesn't seem to me to be expressible in a single sentence. Perhaps 'success' is the wrong word...? What is he going to succeed in doing? How will anything he succeeds in doing serve anyone's needs? Is the success in question not the Ambassador's but China's? and if you use the word 'success' you need to say what sort of success. Tedmc suggested 'in whatever things they do' - which is an attempt at defining the success - economic success, success in trade, success in raising living standards, success in tackling the problem of greenhouse gas emissions...

    You can use the phrase 'for the benefit of...', but it suggests that the President learnt his English from Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band lyrics.

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    Re: for the benefit of

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post

    You can use the phrase 'for the benefit of...', but it suggests that the President learnt his English from Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band lyrics.
    I'm glad it wasn't just me. I really wanted one of the people in the room to be called Mr Kite!

    (In case anyone thinks we've gone completely mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCiG7xoEb2Y)
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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