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    appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Hi, respectable teachers,


    When I checked with google:


    【We appreciate your being here.】is way more than【We appreciate you being here.】


    BUT,


    【We appreciate you helping us.】is more than【We appreciate your helping us.】




    Do you think 4 sentences are all correct? Do they all sound natural to native speakers?
    (Please specify it's AmEnglish or BrEnglish, if it is proper)

    Thank you very much!

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    They are all correct in AmE.

    One form is possessive adjective + gerund noun. The other form is objective pronoun + participle.

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Welcome back to the forum, yyfroy.
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    Hi, respectable teachers, I think you meant 'respected teachers', but no salutation is necessary. Just go ahead and ask your question.

    When I checked with google:

    'We appreciate your being here' is way more common than 'We appreciate you being here.'

    BUT,

    'We appreciate you helping us' is more common than 'We appreciate your helping us.'

    Do you think all four sentences are all correct?
    (Please specify whether it's AmEnglish or BrEnglish, if necessary.)

    Thank you very much! Unnecessary. Just click 'Thank' when you get a useful reply.
    They are all correct in BrE, too.

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Quote Originally Posted by yyfroy View Post
    Do you think 4 sentences are all correct? Do they all sound natural to native speakers?
    They do. Traditionally, the possessive + gerund form was favoured, but nowadays the object pronoun is more common.

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Thank you Rover_KE,

    especially for your correction of my questions!!

    That's very nice of you!

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    I find them to be equally common.

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Thank you, you guys!

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I find them to be equally common.

    Thanks for letting me know. In BrE, the object pronoun is winning and is crossing over into more formal areas, though these are the areas where the possessive is still to be found.

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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    Quote Originally Posted by yyfroy View Post
    Thank you Rover_KE,

    especially for your correction of my questions!!
    I notice you posted the same question on the WR and UE forums without making the amendments I had suggested.

    We recommend posting a question on one forum only initially. If you do not get a satisfactory answer from that forum and you feel that you have exhausted its possibilities, then of course trying a different forum might help. It is only courteous however, to tell the second forum that you have already asked the question on another forum and then give a precis of the answers you received there, along with an explanation of why you are now looking elsewhere.
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    Re: appreciate your being here/appreciate you helping us

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, Yyfroy:

    The teachers have already answered you. I just wanted to share some ideas that, I believe, are reasonably accurate.

    1. Here in the United States, I suspect that most people who say "I appreciate you being here" ACTUALLY mean "your." Most people, of course, are very busy with their lives and have no time (or interest) in the finer points of grammar. Since so many people (of all educational levels) say "you," it is understandable that many (most?) Americans use "you" without thinking about it.

    2. There are some (a few?) people who feel that there is a helpful distinction between the two. I will discuss what they say. I am not saying that they are correct, especially in 2015, when some grammar "rules" are no longer followed by many native speakers.

    a. "I really appreciate your being here." = The emphasis is on the "being." You did not know whether you would have time to attend the speaker's party, but you rearranged your work schedule in order to attend the party. The speaker wants to express his gratitude.

    b. "I really appreciate you being here." = The emphasis is on "you." Let's say that you and the speaker were once friends but later became enemies. Yet you show up at the speaker's birthday party. The speaker is astonished, grateful, and touched that you (an enemy) would actually come to her birthday party!

    3. I personally like this distinction, but I doubt that many people nowadays follow it.




    James

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