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    Turned out vs happens to be

    Hi,
    I am confused between "Turn out" and "Happens to be".In the following example which should be used.

    1a)I got/reached to the man's house and he turned to be my brother.

    1b) I got/reached to the man's house and he happened to be my brother.

    2) The guy "turned out/happened to be" smarter than.

    3) My perception was that smoking makes you look cool and I "turned out/happened to be" wrong.

    4) The same guy who was accusing us, "turned out to be/happened to be" the thief.

    Thanks.

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    #2

    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    I think they are equivalent.

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    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    1a) and 1b) have to be 'I reached' or 'I got to the man's house and he turned out to be/happened to be my brother'.

    2) is incomplete.

    3) is OK

    Delete the comma in 4).

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    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    2) is incomplete.
    Would it be complete if 'expected' was added after 'than'?

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    #5

    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    Yes.

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    #6

    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    You could also add "me" (and various other things) at the end.

    The guy turned out to be smarter than me.
    The guy turned out to be smarter than anyone I know.
    The guy turned out to be smarter than expected.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    'The guy turned out to be smarter than before.'
    I think 'turned out' cannot be replaced with 'happened' here. Am I right or wrong?
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    #8

    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    I have to say that I don't find "turn out [to be]" and "happen [to be]" interchangeable.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I have to say that I don't find "turn out [to be]" and "happen [to be]" interchangeable.
    I agree with emsr2d2 - depending (as always) on the context. In certain circumstances, such as "If you happen to be in the area/if it turns out that you are in the area, then come and see me", then they are interchangeable. However, when dealing with past events, I feel that "happened [to be]" is a simple statement of a relevant fact which was previously not known, whereas "turned out [to be]" carries the connotation of something surprising/unexpected/serendipitous.
    I'm not a teacher of English, but I have spoken it for (almost) all of my life....

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    #10

    Re: Turned out vs happens to be

    In my opinion, "turns out" does not carry the connotation of something surprising/unexpected/serendipitous in contemporary AmE. It just means that after careful consideration of all the possibilities, one emerges or "turns out" to be the case.

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