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    #1

    (of) no more than / not exceeding

    Dear friends,

    Which phrase out of the following ones provided below you find the most idiomatic?

    1) Our experiments provide the total classification error of no more than 10%.

    2) Our experiments provide the total classification error no more than 10%.

    3) Our experiments provide the total classification error not exceeding 10%.

    Thanks for your help

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    #2

    Re: (of) no more than / not exceeding

    I do not think an experiment can provide errors. (There might be errors, but they are not provided.)

    You might say, for example: "The error rate did not exceed 10%."


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    #3

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    For me, number 1 is the best, but I would replace "the" with "a".

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    #4

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    Experiments can indeed provide error rates.

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    #5

    Re: (of) no more than / not exceeding

    It is also called limit of error or tolerance.

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    #6

    Re: (of) no more than / not exceeding

    Would somebody please tell me how you provide (or are provided with) errors? (I have always thought you provide somebody with something they actually want.)


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    #7

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    You don't provide errors. We are talking about the accuracy of an experiment which is inherent in all experiments. It is expressed as a percentage of the final result. Accuracy cannot absolute, an experiment can only be as accurate as the instruments it use to measure, which have varying limits of error. The final result bears the cumulative effect of these limits

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    #8

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    Perhaps:

    Perfection is impossible. An experiment can only be as accurate as the instruments used to make the measurements.


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    #9

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    That is why we have "p values". They calculate the possibility that the results could happen by accident.

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    #10

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    Somebody is going to have to take me by the hand and carefully explain this stuff to me.


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