corporal punishment

[tufguy]

"Corporal punishment should be given to the children till 9th standard". Is it correct?

 

[Tarheel]

That is a grammatical sentence. (Does that answer your question?)

 

[emsr2d2]

We don't use "9th standard" in English. Perhaps "Children should receive corporal punishment until Year 9/until 9th grade" would work. I assume you don't mean that all children should be given corporal punishment!

 

[Tarheel]

Maybe they use that in India.

 

[bhaisahab]

Maybe they use that in India.

They do use "standard". In India, "9th standard" is the correct term for it

 

[emsr2d2]

That's a good fact to bear in mind. The OP needs to bear in mind that if they are speaking to a native speaker of a different variant of English, "9th standard" won't be immediately understood.

 

[Rover_KE]

Neither will 'Year 9' or '9th Grade'.

State the actual age up to which you consider children should be beaten.

 

[emsr2d2]

Fair point. I would use the age.

However, I discovered about a year ago that the terminology for school "years" in the UK seems to have changed and follows a similar system to AmE.

When I went to school, I was in "5s, 6s, 7s, 8s" at "first school" (now called primary school), then I was in "1st year/2nd year/3rd year/4th year" at "middle school" (now called junior school and which now finishes at the age of 11, not 12), then in "2nd year/3rd year/4th year/5th year" at "secondary school/high school", then in "Lower 6th/Upper 6th" at Sixth Form College.

None of those terms seem to have survived.

My work colleague, who has an 11-year-old son, tells me that all schools now refer to their students as being in "Year 1" (age 5) all the way to "Year 11" (age 16). From 2017 (I think), all students will be required to stay at school until the age of 18 so presumably, they will enter "Year 12" and "Year 13" before they can leave school.

 

[Grumpy]

When I went to school, I was in "5s, 6s, 7s, 8s" at "first school" (now called primary school), then I was in "1st year/2nd year/3rd year/4th year" at "middle school" (now called junior school and which now finishes at the age of 11, not 12), then in "2nd year/3rd year/4th year/5th year" at "secondary school/high school", then in "Lower 6th/Upper 6th" at Sixth Form College.

That's interesting. In mid 1950's Scotland, I went to "primary school" from age 5 to 11. The small village school had two classrooms only, so children of different ages were all taught together. The first three years were spent in "Infants", after which I moved classroom to be taught for the remaining years by the Headmaster (who happened to be my father). Then, having passed the "11 plus" (or "The Qualifying", as it was always called), I went on to "Senior Secondary" school, where I progressed from "1st year" to "6th year". Simples!
We didn't have an "upper" 6th, as we sat our "Highers" a year before our English counterparts did their A-levels. "Highers" (Higher Scottish Certificate of Education, I think) ranked somewhere in between the old standard "O-levels" and A-levels. In fact, we could sit some of our "Highers" in 5th year. Scottish University courses were generally one year longer than their English equivalents, but the "Highers" system meant that we did not have to specialise to the same extent as A-level students. With a decent spread of "Highers" under my belt, I was eligible to apply for every single degree course offered by the Scottish Universities.
Coming back to the thread, corporal punishment carried on to 4th year at least (age 14/15): administered across the palms of the hands by means of the famous "Lochgelly Belt" or "Tawse". Happy days!!

 

[MikeNewYork]

When I went to primary school in Chicago, the school had kindergarten through grade 8. I went to kindergarten at age 4 and first grade at age 5. There were three classes in each grade, each with 40 students. So there were almost 1000 students. I graduated from 8th grade at 13. Then came high school.

 

[SoothingDave]

Fair point. I would use the age.

However, I discovered about a year ago that the terminology for school "years" in the UK seems to have changed and follows a similar system to AmE.

When I went to school, I was in "5s, 6s, 7s, 8s" at "first school" (now called primary school), then I was in "1st year/2nd year/3rd year/4th year" at "middle school" (now called junior school and which now finishes at the age of 11, not 12), then in "2nd year/3rd year/4th year/5th year" at "secondary school/high school", then in "Lower 6th/Upper 6th" at Sixth Form College.

None of those terms seem to have survived.

My work colleague, who has an 11-year-old son, tells me that all schools now refer to their students as being in "Year 1" (age 5) all the way to "Year 11" (age 16). From 2017 (I think), all students will be required to stay at school until the age of 18 so presumably, they will enter "Year 12" and "Year 13" before they can leave school.

What happened to the first year of secondary school?

 

[emsr2d2]

What happened to the first year of secondary school?

The secondary school I went to was previously an all-girls grammar school so it used to take students at the age of 11 (those who had passed the 11-plus). However, by the time I went there, it had become a mixed-sex comprehensive school. "1st Year" had previously applied to those students who joined the school at the age of 11 and who would then progress through to the 5th year. Instead of renaming all the years, they just dispensed with "1st Year" and we all joined straight into "2nd year" at the age of 12.