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    Irony vs Coincidence

    "a firetruck caught in fire".

    People say this is ironic but where is the irony? I think it's a coincidence because firetruck is meant to deal with fire.

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    A firetruck is intended to put out fire but it is actually on fire, so it is ironic.

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    #3

    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    We say "caught fire" or "caught on fire".

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    #4

    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    And it isn't a coincidence because it's an isolated event.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coincidence

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    #5

    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    I am not a teacher.

    It would be a coincidence if two fire engines caught fire at the same time.

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    I would not call that an irony. A fire truck (or fire brigade that I am more used to calling) risks catching fire just like any other vehicle.
    The purpose for which it is intended does not make it less vulnerable to catching a fire.

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    I think a fireman is much more vulnerable than a firetruck, which does not enter the fire scene ── that's what I saw in 'Chicago fire'.

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    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 11-Feb-2015 at 15:37.

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I would not call that an irony. A fire truck (or fire brigade that I am more used to calling) risks catching fire just like any other vehicle.
    The purpose for which it is intended does not make it less vulnerable to catching a fire.

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    Um, no. If your firetrucks are routinely catching on fire, then you're doing something wrong. It is indeed ironic that a vehicle intended to fight fire is in need of rescue from a fire.

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    I would not call that an irony. A fire truck (or fire brigade that I am more used to calling) risks catching fire just like any other vehicle.
    The purpose for which it is intended does not make it less vulnerable to catching a fire.

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    In BrE, the term "fire brigade" has always referred to the firemen (now increasingly known as "firefighters") and their organisation, rather than their vehicles, in the same way as the word "Army" refers to both the soldiers and the totality of their units. The Fire Brigade's vehicles are called fire tenders, or fire trucks. Interestingly, in these PC days when everything has to be a "service", fire brigades are now called "fire and rescue services", and we now have police "services" instead of "forces".
    I'm not a teacher of English, but I have spoken it for (almost) all of my life....

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    Re: Irony vs Coincidence

    I think if a man gets hit by an ambulance, it will be ironic too. Is this right?

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