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    old slang : fan

    Hi,

    I hear "fan" and "fans" in almost every lines of Kirk Douglas playing Charles Tatum
    talking to his office colleagues in Ace in the Hole.
    (1951 - directed by Billy Wilder for Paramount Pictures)

    "Look, fan, ask him..."
    "I'm stuck for good, fans!"

    Fan here means "folks", "amateurs", "mate", "kid" ?
    When it is said by Kirk Douglas, sometimes we hear "Faaaaan"

    Thank you.

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    Re: old slang : fan

    There is no such thing as old slang.

    Often context will tell you everything you need to know. (That might also be all you have to go on.)

    Your guess is as good as mine.

    You're welcome.


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    Re: old slang : fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    There is no such thing as old slang.
    Why not? Wouldn't it mean words that were once slang but which are no longer used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Why not? Wouldn't it mean words that were once slang but which are no longer used?
    There are also words that would once have been considered slang but are now part of common parlance.

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    Re: old slang : fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Why not? Wouldn't it mean words that were once slang but which are no longer used?

    Exactly Ray. Why not?
    My question refers to a review of this movie on DVDizzy. I quote :
    [...] and English subtitles are there should you need them. (Confession: I had to consult them to discover that Tatum calls people "fan"; that slang usage was new to me.)
    Unfortunately, the article does not explain it. English subtitles either. I send a message on their facebook page, but I'm not sure they will reply me.

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    Re: old slang : fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Why not? Wouldn't it mean words that were once slang but which are no longer used?
    Well, maybe there's a word for that, but "old slang" seems to be a contradiction in terns.

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    Call it dated, then. I would say that this use of fan is dated- I've never heard it.

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    Re: old slang : fan

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Well, maybe there's a word for that, but "old slang" seems to be a contradiction in terns.
    Not at all. Please refer to our old Iceberg Slim threads. Outdated slang is a translator's nightmare, even for a translator from English to English, a phenomenon that I have previously documented.

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    Odds bodkins indeed, with apologies to whomever I stole this reply from.

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    Re: old slang : fan

    I haven't seen the movie but your quotes suggest it is being used the way people use the word man.

    I will try to get a clip working, but I am in a very narrowband world at the moment and video it difficult.

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