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    We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    Hi guys!

    It's from the movie "The Mask"

    Scenario: Someone has robbed the bank where Stanley Ipkiss works.

    Stanley's boss reprimands Stanley for being late: We have a crisis here, and you stroll in an hour late?

    I would have said that sentence either in Present continuous or in Present Perfect.

    Self-made: We have a crisis here, and you are strolling/have strolled in an hour late?

    Which sentence is grammatically correct?

    Many thanks in advance.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    It is not a question of grammar. It is a question of usage. Both are grammatically correct, but only the simple present would be heard in AmE or BrE. In this context the present continuous and the past perfect are heard only in Indian English.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    HI Probus!

    As per my knowledge we use Simple Present for:
    1. We use it for habits or things that we do regularly. e.g.
    I play tennis every Tuesday.
    I get up at seven o'clock every day
    .

    2. We use it for a situation that we think is more or less permanent. e.g.
    I live in New Delhi.

    We have a crisis here, and you stroll in an hour late?


    But neither of those rules tells me to use Simple Present in the talked about sentence.

    So could you please tell me why you think it's idiomatic to express that sentence in Simple Present only?

    Thanks a million in advance.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    Using 'are strolling' would mean that Stanley is still strolling. Using 'have strolled' would mean that Stanley has stopped strolling.

    But Stanley's boss is talking from the present situation since he did say 'an hour late' to mean that Stanley walked in just now.

    I don't know. Check with probus or another teacher.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    I would go with the simple present.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamboyant lad View Post
    So could you please tell me why you think it's idiomatic to express that sentence in Simple Present only?

    Thanks a million in advance.
    I am not a teacher.

    Try looking at it this way.

    We have a crisis here, and what do you do? You stroll in an hour late.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    In casual conversation, especially in times of stress or emergency, Flamboyant lad, we don't studiously consider whether our utterances are grammatically correct.

    Doesn't the same thing happen in Hindi?

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    Hello guys!

    Could you guys please tell me some examples where Simple Present is used in the same way?

    Thanks a lot in advance.

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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamboyant lad View Post
    Hello guys!

    Could you guys please tell me some examples where Simple Present is used in the same way?

    Thanks a lot in advance.
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    Re: We have a crisis here, & you stroll/are strolling in late?

    "HI Probus!

    As per my knowledge we use Simple Present for:
    1. We use it for habits or things that we do regularly. e.g.
    I play tennis every Tuesday.
    I get up at seven o'clock every day
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    I would say the same as you in both examples.

    But would you agree that in Delhi one often hears hear "I am playing ..." and "I am getting ..."? That is what I mean when I say "the Indian dialect of English."
    Last edited by probus; 15-Mar-2015 at 03:38.

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