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    #21

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    We have long vowel sounds in English and short vowel sounds. One has to learn the difference. That is not a simple process.
    It's not so difficult for me:

    1. Learn the American pronunciation of the alphabet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xSaINX-fdc
    (Happy Kids, ABC Writing | Alphabet Writing | Capital Letters | Upper-Case Letters)

    2. The alphabet contains 13 vowels:
    monophthong: [e] [i] [E] [o] [>] [x] [X] [u] [.]
    diphthong: [A] [I] [O] [U]

    3. Addition of 6 vowels:
    monophthong: [e] [i] [E] [o] [>] [x] [X] [u] [.]
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    diphthong: [A] [I] [ow] [O] [>i] [U] [yx] [y.] [.r]

    *Phonetic symbols and contents from Prof. Lee's <A.E. American Eglish Reader>.
    Last edited by TaiwanPofLee; 14-Apr-2015 at 04:45. Reason: Try to draw frames for the symbols.

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    #22

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    If it is not difficult for you, why do you have so many questions?

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    #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    If it is not difficult for you, why do you have so many questions?
    I ask, I discuss, I learn, I teach

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    #24

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    I understand.

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    #25

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by TaiwanPofLee View Post
    2. The alphabet contains 13 vowels:
    diphthong: [A] [I] [O] [U]
    Yes, that's their names. I'm glad you've finally stumbled upon what I tried to tell you about a month ago!
    But the English alphabet doesn't have 13 vowels. It has 5. You are using "alphabet" in the wrong way. English may have 13 vowel sounds, though I'm certain this number varies by dialect.
    I truly hope you don't need another few weeks before coming to believe this.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet
    Note, I have other sources.

    PS: There is also nothing different about the pronunciations of capital and small letters. 'O' and 'o' as letter names are pronounced the same, and they also make the same sound, that is 'BONE' and 'bone' are pronounced the same.
    Also, [>] [x] [X] [.] are not English vowels to my knowledge, but I don't know what system you are using.
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    #26

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Well, English has 5 main vowels and sometimes Y, the sixth.

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    #27

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    To me, phonetic symbols are symbols created to represent sounds. The Taiwan people use ㄅㄆㄇㄈetc (37 symbols) for their Mandarin Chinese sounds. The PRC people switched from ㄅㄆㄇㄈetc to bo po mo fo etc.

    <A.E. American Eglish Reader>: [>] represents 'aw' as in 'law', [x] represents 'u' as in 'put', [.] represents 'a' as in 'ago' etc.

    I appreciate all of your responses.
    Last edited by TaiwanPofLee; 15-Apr-2015 at 04:00.

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    #28

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Well, English has 5 main vowels and sometimes Y, the sixth.
    I am teaching Taiwan people that there are now 19 vowel sounds and 24 consonant sounds in 'standard' American English.

    *For the 19 vowel sounds, please see #21, above.

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    #29

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    I think you are making it more complicated than it need be.

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    #30

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I think you are making it more complicated than it need be.
    Oxford, Cambridge, Longman, Collins, Merriam-Webster, American Heritage, KK and so on all have different phonetic symbols. Prof. Lee's symbols are easy to use on the computer.

    What is more, I think it is easy to learn a new phonetic system after you have learned one system.
    Last edited by TaiwanPofLee; 15-Apr-2015 at 05:40.

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