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    #51

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    The pronunciations of the consonants in "yes" and "west" are no more semivowels than the P in "pest" or the L in "less". IPA symbols don't determine pronunciations; pronunciations should determine IPA symbols,

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    #53

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Well, evidently there is support for your position, but I still find it odd. And I don't see how it improves the understanding or learning of English.

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    #54

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Well, evidently there is support for your position, but I still find it odd. And I don't see how it improves the understanding or learning of English.
    Such scholarly and sophiscated analysis helps some students of English with their understanding and learning of the English pronunciation. (Few people can, and need to, understand Einstein's theory of relativity.)
    This thread of mine is, in the first place, concerned with phonemes of the pronunciations of the names of letters O and I.

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    #55

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    So how did we end up with W?

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    #56

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    So how did we end up with W?
    In this thread? I don't know. Taiwan brought it up.

    In the alphabet? Yeah, how did we? Hold on a sec - I'll look it up....

    Well, that was easy!: History of W
    I'm not a teacher. I speak American English. I've tutored writing at the University of Southern Maine and have done a good deal of copy editing and writing, occasionally for publication.

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    #57

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

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    So how did we end up with W?
    And why isn't it called "double v"?

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    #58

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    And why isn't it called "double v"?
    Many Spanish call it "doble ve".
    http://www.spanishdict.com/answers/1...-u-or-doble-v-

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    #59

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    It's "double vé" in French, too.

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    #60

    Re: pronunciations of O and I

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    We have long vowel sounds in English and short vowel sounds. One has to learn the difference. That is not a simple process.
    It's easy for students of English in Taiwan who use English dictionaries with phonetic symbols. And even more so if their teachers give them a comprehensive list of words comparing the different sounds of [u:] and [u].

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