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    (the ) UK

    http://www.chinahush.com/2013/01/23/...ication-table/

    1. Teachers in UK always puzzled about why always the Chinese kids got the first prize in international math competitions?

    2. Teachers in the UK always puzzled about why always the Chinese kids got the first prize in international math competitions?

    I think #1 is substandard usage and #2 is standard usage. Am I right?
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    Re: (the ) UK

    Yes, but the sentence has other problems as well.

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    Hi,

    You have to use the definite article 'the' before 'UK'- no exceptions.

    You also need to say 'are always puzzled...'
    Also: 'why always the Chinese kids' is wrong. It should be '...why Chinese kids always...'.

    You do not need 'the' before 'Chinese kids'.

    You should use the present simple 'get' instead of 'got' as the sentence is in the present simple tense.

    So the sentence should be:
    Teachers in the UK are always puzzled (about) why Chinese kids always get the first prize in international math competitions.


    Hope this helps!


    Michael Andrews
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    Last edited by Rover_KE; 25-Apr-2015 at 12:03.

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    What's the difference in meaning between the first prize and first prize?
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 25-Apr-2015 at 09:17. Reason: Deleting unnecessary quote.
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    #5

    Re: (the ) UK

    'The' is known as the 'definite article', meaning it specifies or defines 'exclusivity'.

    In this case, there is only ONE First prize (there is no second 'first prize'), so naturally we will say THE First prize.

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    Last edited by Barb_D; 25-Apr-2015 at 05:38.

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    Re: (the ) UK

    Lily was speaking so excitedly and so fast about winning first prize in the Mark Six.
    WHy is "first prize" without the definite article "the"?
    http://english.stackexchange.com/que...ze-without-the
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    In BE at least, this is an example of a context in which the definite article is entirely optional.

    It makes no difference either way.

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    Re: (the ) UK

    The same is true in AmE. I prefer it without the article.

    My dog received first prize in the dog show.
    My daughter earned first prize in the science fair.

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