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    what is

    Quote from a Harvard open course :
    "And I think a system that rewards merit is the one that weve pretty much all established is what is best for all of us"

    Can I leave out " what is"? Let me rephrase the sentence like this:
    And I think a system that rewards merit is the one that weve pretty much all established is best for all of us.

    And I think weve pretty much all established a system that rewards merit is the one that is best for all of us.

    Do the above two sentences have the same meaning as the original one?
    Thank you.

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    Re: what is

    You can indeed. I think that leaving it in is a little more emphatic than leaving it out in AmE.

    "And I think weve pretty much all established a system that rewards merit is the one that is best for all of us" is the one that sounds best to my ear.

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    Re: what is

    Quote Originally Posted by masterding View Post
    "And I think a system that rewards merit is the one that weve pretty much all established is what is best for all of us"
    The construction is 'And I think (something) is (something) is (something)'.
    Is such a construction grammatical?

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    Re: what is

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    The construction is 'And I think (something) is (something) is (something)'.
    Is such a construction grammatical?

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    I think (that) "that" is grammatically omitted here.
    And I think (that) something is something that is something.
    And I think (that) a system that rewards merit is the one that is best for all of us.

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    Re: what is

    Quote Originally Posted by masterding View Post
    And I think (that) something is something that is something.
    But the relative pronoun 'that' is not the object in the relative clause 'that is something', so I think it cannot be omitted.
    Am I wrong?
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    Re: what is

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    But the relative pronoun 'that' is not the object in the relative clause 'that is something', so I think it cannot be omitted.
    Am I wrong?
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    Yes, I think so, that "that" can't be omitted, and it was not omitted in the original sentence , nor in my sentences.

    And I think a system that rewards merit is the one that weve pretty much all established is what is best for all of us.

    And I think weve pretty much all established a system that rewards merit is the one that is what is best for all of us.

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    Re: what is

    Quote Originally Posted by masterding View Post
    "And I think a system that rewards merit is the one that we’ve pretty much all established is what is best for all of us"
    Is it grammatical to replace 'is what is' with ', which is'?

    Quote Originally Posted by masterding View Post
    the one that we’ve pretty much all established
    I think that can be omitted because it is the object of 'we’ve pretty much all established', but I am not a teacher.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 25-Apr-2015 at 06:41.

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    Re: what is

    Is it grammatical to replace 'is what is' with ', which is'?
    I think 'what is"'can be replaced with 'something which is' or 'something that is'.

    I think that can be omitted because it is the object of 'weve pretty much all established', but I am not a teacher.
    In my opinion, the object of 'weve pretty much all established' is 'a system that rewards merit is the one that is (what is) best for all of us', not 'that', 'that' refered to 'the one' ,so it can't be omitted.

    And I think weve pretty much all established (a system that rewards merit is the one that is what is best for all of us).

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