Can you decode the following message?

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I wxd lIk tw kum tw yxr plAs tw lwrn HInEz wiTH U. I wil pA twentE dolwrz pwr owr.
plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.
 

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I don't know what HInEz is supposed to mean.
 

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Could it be "Chinese?"
 

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Hello

I tried to Decode the message according to pronunciation & that s what I find , hope it's true :D

I wxd lIk tw kum tw yxr plAs tw lwrn HInEz wiTH U. I wil pA twentE dolwrz pwr owr.
plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.

I would like to come to your place to learn Chinese with you. I will pay twenty dollars per hour .
 

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What about the last sentence?
 

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Oh sorry i didn't pay attention to it :roll:

plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.

please reply as soon as possible
 

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Chinese! Shoot, I thought it was Heinz or hineys or Hernandez or something....
 

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Oh sorry i didn't pay attention to it :roll:

plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.

please reply as soon as possible

Remember: Your answer isn't right without correct capitals and punctuation!
 

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Remember: Your answer isn't right without correct capitals and punctuation!

I didn't get what you're trying to say , is there a rule to decode a message ?
any way I'll give a try
 

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I wxd lIk tw kum tw yxr plAs tw lwrn HInEz wiTH U. I wil pA twentE dolwrz pwr owr.
plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.


I would like to come to your place to learn Chinese with you. I will pay twenty dollars per hour.
Please reply as soon as possible
x ----> /ə/
X ---->/uː/
I ----> /aɪ/
i ---> /I/
A ----> /eɪ/
E ---> /iː/
TH ---> d /θ/
z ---> s
k ----> c
H ---> /ʧ/
w ---> /ʊ/
 

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Bravo, Karima04!

wot dX U thiNk uv prwfeswr lEz folOiN iNgliS fwnetik simblz?

vowwlz:
[A], [a]
[E], [e]
,
[O], [o], [aw], [oy], [ow]
, , [yx], [yw]
[X], [x]
[w], [wr]

konswnwnts:
[p] [t] [f] [k] [H] [h] [th]
[d] [v] [g] [j] [z] [Z] [TH] [l] [m] [n] [N] [r] [w] [y]
 

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I don't think much of them at all.
It's pretty well known that if you see the consonants only, you can get the basic idea of most words. That's why the "Chinese" was so hard - "H" isn't "Ch" for us.

f u kn rd ths u kn rd wt u rt smply bi skppng mst vwls
 

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I think it is a gimmick.
 

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Yeah ! it's a gimmick , I'm not a professor , but as Barb_B said
if you see the consonants only, you can get the basic idea of most words.
About Chinese , they use H which we pronounce it / eɪtʃ / so we can guess that the begin of the word might be [ CH ]
 

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f u kn rd ths u kn rd wt u rt smply bi skppng mst vwls

If u can read this you can read what you wrote [rt] simply by skipping most vowels

I'm not sure about [rt] :p
but yeah you're right , that's ongoing & especially in chatting
 

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I wxd lIk tw kum tw yxr plAs tw lwrn HInEz wiTH U. I wil pA twentE dolwrz pwr owr.
plEz riplI az sXn az poswbl.


I would like to come to your place to learn Chinese with you. I will pay twenty dollars per hour.
Please reply as soon as possible
x ----> /ə/
X ---->/uː/
I ----> /aɪ/
i ---> /I/
A ----> /eɪ/
E ---> /iː/
TH ---> d /θ/
z ---> s
k ----> c
H ---> /ʧ/
w ---> /ʊ/

Nice try, Karima :up: :). But the transcription can't be compared 1:1 with IPA symbols. I don't see how "yxr" "lwrn" "dolwrz" and "owr" are supposed to work. And for completeness (at the risk of confusion :oops:) you need to add "y --> /j/". Also, TH --> /ð/. (Consider the difference between with /wɪð/ and width /wɪdθ/ - a word you may not have met (it means something like wideness).

But I agree with others that this system is unhelpful, confusing, and gimmicky.

b
 

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I know very little about phonemic symbols and I had no trouble decoding the sentences.
 

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I know very little about phonemic symbols and I had no trouble decoding the sentences.
According to my study of English pronunciation, since general native English speakers are acquainted with pronunciations of more than 5,000 English words before they go to elementary school, their elementary school English education concentrates more on spelling than pronunciation. Nevertheless, teaching phonemic symbols, especially easy and sensible ones, to elementary school pupils will definitely help them with their learning of English pronunciations and establish for the English language a standard pronunciation.
 

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That is your opinion. And it seems to support your field of study, so I am not surprised. But I am still not convinced.
 

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Just a couple of observations:

English phonemic symbols are meant to represent the sounds of the English language.
They may be any symbols. There have been more than ten sets of English phonemic symbols used in popular British and American English dictionaries.
Easy and sensible English phonemic symbols are helpful to learning of English pronunciations, even to native English speakers.
It is easy to adapt yourself to a different set of English phonemic symbols after you have learned your first set.
Students learn English phonemic symbols in order to know the standard pronunciation of an English word, not to transcribe an English word in phonemic symbols.
 
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