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    before OR after

    The principal rules and practices of international extradition constitute a significant body of international law. It is noteworthy that this body of international law was derived almost wholly from treaty sources and grew to recognized stature before treaties had overtaken custom as the most important source of international law.

    I believe that it must be after instead of before here. Do you agree with me? Because the past perfect tense is something that must happen earlier.
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    Re: before OR after

    I disagree with you, because the sequence established by a time marker overrides that by the past perfect.

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    #3

    Re: before OR after

    I would have used "overtook". The meaning of sentence is fairly clear (I think), and if you detect an inconsistency, you'd change the wrong part; you don't change another part to make it consistent with the error.
    I think it's trying to say that the custom had achieved stature before formal treaties overtook custom. The error is the past perfect tense, I believe.

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    #4

    Re: before OR after

    If so, is the past perfect tense below an error?
    'He waited until she had finished speaking.'── quoted from http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/until

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    #5

    Re: before OR after

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    If so, is the past perfect tense below an error?
    'He waited until she had finished speaking.'
    That's not analogous. Obviously, he waited for something, and that something was the recent event. The past perfect is correct. Very often, the use of the past perfect tense cannot be determined from one sentence. It's used for a situation that often occurs in the narration over several sentences.
    After the above, we might have, "And then he proposed to her."

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    Re: before OR after

    After tens of reviews, and on second thought I got the idea behind the scene.

    What about if we think first: "treaties had overtaken the customs," and then, "it (the body do extradition) grew to recognized stature."

    In this case everything would be fine in the original statement.

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    #7

    Re: before OR after

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    (the body do extradition)
    Do you mean 'the body' is a group of people carrying out extradition? I think 'a significant body of' means 'a large amount of' in the original sentence, but I am not a teacher.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 25-May-2015 at 12:02.

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    Re: before OR after

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Do you mean 'the body' is a group of people carrying out extradition? I think 'a significant body of' means 'a large amount of' in the original sentence, but I am not a teacher.
    It's a law text. Extradition and body have different meanings here. Body is a great part of law here.

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    #9

    Re: before OR after

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    It's a law text. Extradition and body have different meanings here. Body is a great part of law here.
    Yes, lawyers would probably call it the Corpus Legis.
    http://www.juridicum.su.se/iri/corpus/

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