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    as the particular persons we are.

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    Loyalties whose moral force consists partly in the fact that living by them is inseparable from understanding ourselves as the particular persons we are.

    Can I leave out "we are" and just say "as the particular persons"?
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    #2

    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    No.

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    No.
    Why is "we are" necessary?

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    #4

    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    It needs an explanation. How would anyone know which "particular persons" the writer is referring to otherwise?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #5

    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    "Understanding ourselves as we are" is the crucial bit there.

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    It needs an explanation. How would anyone know which "particular persons" the writer is referring to otherwise?
    But can we not know from "understanding ourselves" that "the particular persons" refers to "we"?

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    I think it might refer to 'the particular persons mentioned above/below' if 'we are' was omitted, but I am not a teacher.

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    "Understanding ourselves as we are" is the crucial bit there.
    I've got it.Thank you so much.

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I think it might refer to 'the particular persons mentioned above/below' if 'we are' was omitted, but I am not a teacher.
    As Soothdove pointed out "Understanding ourselves as we are" is the crucial bit there. Understanding ourselves as we are, eg., not as we do . I think that's why ' we are' is essential .
    Last edited by masterding; 22-Jun-2015 at 00:53.

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    Re: as the particular persons we are.

    It's also not a sentence. It's the subject word "Loyalties" followed by a relative clause.

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