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    #31

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    I would call that adverbial.

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    #32

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I would call that adverbial.
    Do you understand my confusion? I think some are confused too.

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    #33

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    There are no absolutes in this. The good news is this issue is not very important. What we label modifiers is not earth shattering. Were I you, I would give it a rest.

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    #34

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

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    Hello, Mawes:

    You quoted MikeNewYork"s "We would need actual sentences to say for sure."

    In my opinion, if you look at that sentence very carefully, you will see that "sentences" is NOT the subject of "to say for sure."

    I think that a comma would be helpful: "We would need actual sentences, to say for sure."

    In other words, "To say for sure" is a so-called sentence adverb. It refers to the statement of the whole sentence.

    Compare: "To say for sure, we would need actual sentences."

    As you can see, that sentence is completely different from "I buy food to feed my cat." (I am going to think and think and think before I give my two bits [humble opinion] about that sentence!)

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    #35

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    I am not fond of this "sentence adverb" designation except for single words, such as "Hopefully". In my opinion, "to say for sure" is an adverbial phrase modifying "need". The comma after "sentences" is incorrect, in my opinion.

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    #36

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    'We would need actual sentences to say for sure.'── The infinitive is adverbial.
    'We would need actual sentences to consider.'── The infinitive is adjectival.

    Am I right or wrong? Not a teacher.

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    #37

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    I agree Matthew.

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    #38

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    'We would need actual sentences to say for sure.'── The infinitive is adverbial.
    'We would need actual sentences to consider.'── The infinitive is adjectival.

    Am I right or wrong? Not a teacher.
    Why do you say that?

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    #39

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    What's wrong with what I said?

    BTW, I acknowledge receipt of your private messages. Thanks a lot!

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    #40

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    What's wrong with what I said?

    BTW, I acknowledge receipt of your private messages. Thanks a lot!
    To me both looks like it has the same function. I'm not sure.

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