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    #41

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by mawes12 View Post
    To me both looks like it has the same function.
    I think they function differently, but I am not a teacher.
    The sentences will be considered in 'We would need actual sentences to consider'.
    The sentences will NOT be said for sure in 'We would need actual sentences to say for sure'.

    Can you see the difference?

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    #42

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I think they function differently, but I am not a teacher.
    The sentences will be considered in 'We would need actual sentences to consider'.
    The sentences will NOT be said for sure in 'We would need actual sentences to say for sure'.

    Can you see the difference?
    I don't really see the difference to be honest.

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    #43

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    'The sentences will be considered.'── It makes sense.
    'The sentences will be said for sure.'── It doesn't make sense.

    I would be surprised if you still saw no difference, but I am not a teacher.

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    #44

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    'The sentences will be considered.'── It makes sense.
    'The sentences will be said for sure.'── It doesn't make sense.

    I would be surprised if you still saw no difference, but I am not a teacher.
    I understand but why did you put it in that way?

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    #45

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    I put it that way to show the difference, which you had failed to notice.

    Not a teacher.

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    #46

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

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    I put it that way to show the difference, which you had failed to notice.

    Not a teacher.
    Can you please explain?

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    #47

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    'The sentences will say/be said for sure' does not make sense, so 'to say for sure' does not describe 'the sentences' and thus the infinitive phrase does not act as an adjective. As it is not adjectival, it is adverbial.

    Not a teacher.

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    #48

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    Hello, Mawes:

    I'm still thinking about "I buy food to feed my cat," but I think that it was really interesting what one teacher told us: "I buy food to feed my cat with" is clearly adjectival.

    If I am not mistaken, the formal version would be: "I buy food with which to feed my cat." As you can see, the relative pronoun is "which."

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    #49

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

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    I'm still thinking about "I buy food to feed my cat,"
    Do you mean my example sentence is wrong and should be replaced with the following one?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    "I buy food with which to feed my cat."

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    #50

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    'The sentences will be said for sure.'It could mean " the sentences will definitely be said".
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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