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    #51

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    'The sentences will be said for sure.'It could mean " the sentences will definitely be said".
    That's why I'm kinda confused with Mathew's example because it kinda makes sense to me.
    Last edited by mawes12; 11-Jun-2015 at 22:54.

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    #52

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    It that case, it would have been clearer if it was written:

    For sure the sentences will be said. Or
    The sentences for sure will be said.
    I am not a teacher or a native speaker.

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    #53

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    'The sentences will be said for sure.'It could mean " the sentences will definitely be said".
    But this meaning does not fit MikeNewYork's original sentence.

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    #54

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    I am in no position to say that something is wrong. I am sure that MANY more people would say "I bought some food to feed my cat" than "I bought some food with which to feed my cat."

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    To: Mawes

    I STILL do not have the confidence to identify the function of the infinitive in "I went to the store to buy some food to feed my cat."

    But I DID find two quotations in the "books" section of Google that raise some interesting questions.

    1. "Many ... workers find themselves struggling to buy food that will feed their families one main meal." The underlined words are cleary adjectival, I believe.

    a. Let's reduce that to: "...to buy food to feed their families one main meal."

    Could we say that the infinitive phrase is adjectival, too?

    2. "This plan outlines the minimum amount of money a family needs to spend on groceries in order to feed their families a healthy diet." I think that the underlined words are clearly adverbial.

    a. Let's reduce that to: "...needs to spend on groceries to feed their families a healthy diet."

    Could we say the infinitive phrase is adverbial, too?

    Sources: TAMIL GEOGRAPHICS by Selby; ROLE OF FEDERAL FOOD ASSISTANCE.

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    #55

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    I guess the parser is right in saying that it can be both adjectival and adverbial when it comes after a direct object. What do you guys think?
    Last edited by mawes12; 13-Jun-2015 at 00:38.

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    #56

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    There are times when it is arguable. But, as I said earlier it is not very important.

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    #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    There are times when it is arguable. But, as I said earlier it is not very important.
    why do you say that? I think things are better when it is understandable.

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    #58

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    .... If I am not mistaken, the formal version would be: "I buy food with which to feed my cat." As you can see, the relative pronoun is "which."
    It's interesting how differently people can view things! Up to this moment I was sure the sentence in question would mean "I buy food so that I can feed my cat".

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    #59

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    I think it's the same as participial phrase because participial phrases can be adjectival or adverbial in same sentence. Maybe I'm wrong.

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    #60

    Re: guessing function of infinitive verbs

    Yes, mawes, but the grammar label does not increase comprehension.

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