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    Strange sentence

    For just the second time, the United States left Estadio Azteca not on the losing end.

    These sentence seems very strange to me. Would anyone care to explain the nature and structure of this sentence?

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    If you leave someone on the losing end, that means you have won. This is saying that the US did not win. And it is only the second time that they have not won against this opponent.

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    But here Estadio Azteca is a stadium. So if I'm reading it correctly, it's saying that the US won, and it's only the 2nd time they've won (or not been on the loosing end) when they've played at this stadium.

    It's only the 2nd time they've exited this stadium not having been the losers. It's only the 2nd time they've won at this particular stadium.

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    Re: Strange sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    But here Estadio Azteca is a stadium. So if I'm reading it correctly, it's saying that the US won, and it's only the 2nd time they've won (or not been on the loosing end) when they've played at this stadium.

    It's only the 2nd time they've exited this stadium not having been the losers. It's only the 2nd time they've won at this particular stadium.
    D'oh! Here I was thinking that was the name of a team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    It's only the 2nd time they've exited this stadium not having been the losers. It's only the 2nd time they've won at this particular stadium.
    In theory, they could have drawn, but they certainly didn't lose.

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    I'll take your word for it. I'm old-school American, where football involves helmets, and possible soccer outcomes are a novelty concept.

    Can't stand to watch any kind of sport, really. A few I don't mind playing, but even those don't merit watching.

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    Does American football just have win/lose as the possible results?

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    When I played HS football, a tie wasn't permissible. You kept going into overtimes until somebody came ahead. However, overtimes were fairly uncommon. I remember playing one particularly tough game where we went triple overtime, and still managed to lose.

    College football in later years adopted this too, I think, based on rules of Kansas high school football (my home state). I'm not so sure about the NFL, since I don't follow it.

    I think you can tie in other American sports, but even those are rare and complicated situations.

    Americans don't seem to like ties. There's a saying that "A tie is like kissing your sister."

    But your point is taken.

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    We have extra time and penalties in knock-out competitions, but league games can result in a draw.

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    #10

    Re: Strange sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Does American football just have win/lose as the possible results?
    Ties used to be possible on all levels. Now, college and high school football have overtime systems which guarantee a winner. Each team gets to run a possession after having been given the ball in a favorable position on the field. If neither team scores in their possession, or both score exactly the same, then they simply play another overtime and another until a winner emerges.

    In the NFL (professional) ties are possible in regular season games, but not in the playoffs. A tie happens about once every 5 years or so. The NFL plays a "sudden death" overtime where the teams play regular football and the first to score wins. After one OT period in the regular season if there is no score, they call it a tie.

    In the playoffs, they would continue with another OT period.

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