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    tenses

    the kinds of the strategy of Learning 16 tenses as fast as possible is complicated to understand by many students in Indonesia...please tell me what the great tips to study it...

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    Are you really an English teacher, Tonpak? If not, please edit your profile.

    We expect English teachers to have a good grasp of capitalisation, punctuation and sentence construction — all sadly lacking from your post.

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    Re: tenses

    First of all, a good strategy would be to realize there are only 12 verb tenses in English, (24 if you want to consider the passive constructions as new tenses).

    Your 2nd strategy is that there really isn't any need to learn all 12 tenses, certainly not at the beginning levels. The perfect continuous tenses aren't widely used in English. Certainly no need to cover them with lower level students, save them for only the most advanced students.

    Stick to the 3 simple forms, the present and past continuous, and the present and past perfect, in approximately that order, until students are very, very advanced.

    One thing I do, is after introducing and explaining a new tense, is have students do some conjugation exercises, first with written, then orally, with just the verb. Then expand that to conjugating (again written then orally) complete sentences.

    This is particularly useful once they've learned several tenses, to help compare and keep things straight, but the conjugation exercises alone need to be heavily supplanted with real-life conversation exercises that focus on when to use a particular tense. Students can conjugate all day long with perfection, then still not be able to hold a basic conversation if you don't supply practical application exercises.

    Some actually prefer to lead with the conversation, then introduce grammatical points after the fact.

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    Re: tenses

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrej View Post
    First of all, a good strategy would be to realize there are only 12 verb tenses in English.
    Many writers consider that there are only two true tenses in English, those unhelpfully called the present (simple) ans the past (simple). The progressive/continuous and perfect aspects fill out the number of possible forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    Many writers consider that there are only two true tenses in English, those unhelpfully called the present (simple) ans the past (simple). The progressive/continuous and perfect aspects fill out the number of possible forms.
    Maybe that's strictly true, because English doesn't have inflectional endings for the various tenses. But that's not a very useful way to conceptualise English tenses for learners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Maybe that's strictly true, because English doesn't have inflectional endings for the various tenses. But that's not a very useful way to conceptualise English tenses for learners.
    I don't agree. I have used this with my learners for many years now, and they have appeared to grasp the system very quickly.

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    I agree with Raymott. It is easy to grasp a two-tense system, but that doesn't seem to be very helpful to me.

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    I'm still waiting for an answer from the OP to my question in post #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I agree with Raymott. It is easy to grasp a two-tense system, but that doesn't seem to be very helpful to me.
    Are you suggesting it might be more helpful if it were difficult to grasp?

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    I am suggesting it would be more helpful if it were more complete. No matter what one chooses to call the other verb forms, they have to be called something.

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