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    #1

    You sold shoes there.

    Could you listen to this conversation and comment about the pronunciation of the woman about the noun "shoes"?
    It seems to me that she is pronouncing "choes" not "shoes".
    Link: https://soundcloud.com/anh-80/you-sold-shoes-there

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    #2

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    She said 'shoes'. The effect of the preceding /d/, slightly devoiced by the following voiceless sound, made the 'dsh' of 'sold shoes' sound something like the initial affricate of 'choose'.

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    #3

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    Thank you, Piscean. That makes sense now.

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    #4

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    It is clearly "shoes".

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    #5

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    It is clearly "shoes".
    I don't think it is obviously clear to a non-native speaker. In fact, if we could cut the recording so that we heard only 'd shoes', I think that some native speakers might hear 'choose'.

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    #6

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    I was speaking for me. If you would like to speak for everyone else, that is up to you.

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    #7

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I was speaking for me. If you would like to speak for everyone else, that is up to you.
    Apparently you did not notice the 'I don't think', 'I think' and 'some' in my last post. I did not notice such hedgers in your post #4, to which my post was a response.

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    #8

    Re: You sold shoes there.

    I don't have to hedge when I am speaking for myself. I pronounce words as I pronounce them. I don't think I pronounce words that way. I also hear them pronounced that way. No hedging there either.

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