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    Post Is 'none' plural or singular?

    How do we use "None" in a sentence?

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    Re: None is plural or singular?

    I am not a teacher.

    See here. Pay attention to the 'Usage' note.

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

    bebe heart, I have amended your thread title in post #1.

    Please note the correct way to ask a question.

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

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    Hello, Bebe Heart:


    You have already received an excellent link. May I add a few extra words?

    Sometimes I hear some news readers on TV say, "None of the passengers was hurt," and I hear others say, "None of the passengers were hurt."

    Here is some advice from a person who used to work for The New York Times (considered by many people to be the most important American newspaper).

    1, "Most authorities have always believed that none is closer in meaning to 'not any (of them)' than to 'not one (of them).' "

    2, So it's considered plural in most cases: "None of the chickens are hatched."

    3. "None is singular only when it means 'none of it' -- that is to say, 'no amount.' "

    a. "None of the milk was spilled."

    4. She then gives this advice: "When you really [my emphasis] do mean 'not one,' it's better to say 'not one.' "

    a. "Not one of Holyfield's fingers was broken."

    i. Compare: "None of Holyfield's fingers were broken." (That is, "Not any of Holyfield's fingers were broken.")


    Credit for this information goes to Patricia T. O'Conner, Woe Is I (1996 edition).

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheParser View Post
    'not any (of them)'
    I have seen an opinion that 'any of us' is the same as 'any one of us', so it takes a singular verb.
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    So it depends on what we mean.
    None of us are going tomorrow. (Not any)
    None of us is going tomorrow. (Not one)

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

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    Hello, Bebe Heart:

    I am not qualified to answer your question.

    In my opinion, however, I think that Ms. O'Conner might recommend the following:

    1. None of us are going tomorrow. (Not any of us.)

    2. Not one of us is going tomorrow. (Not one of us.)


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    Only my personal opinion: I actually agree with you that some speakers who say, "None of us is going tomorrow" may be thinking of "not one." Perhaps that is the reason that some news readers will say, "None of the passengers was hurt."

    If, however, you are seeking to speak natural-sounding English, you might want to consider Ms. O'Conner's advice.

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    It will be more natural if I use "none" for plural.
    Am I right?

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

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    Could you please give us an example?

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    Re: Is 'none' plural or singular?

    The OP may give an example after reading http://dictionary.reference.com/help...guage/g11.html
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