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    relatively outstanding

    Apparently, it is ok in Chinese to say '较出色‘ spoken ‘jiao chuse' which equates to 'relatively outstanding' or 'comparatively remarkable'. Both these phrases grate on my ears, but I am a bit confused, with my head full of Chinese. For 'relatively outstanding' I would say 'good' or even 'excellent'. I tend to think something is 'outstanding' or not, that there is no halfway house.

    As an English speaker, would you use 'relatively outstanding' or 'comparatively remarkable'?

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    In the right context, yes, I might use either phrase. They are both potentially viable.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    Some context would help.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    Quote Originally Posted by Bide View Post
    Apparently, it is ok in Chinese to say '较出色‘ spoken ‘jiao chuse' which equates to 'relatively outstanding' or 'comparatively remarkable'. Both these phrases grate on my ears, but I am a bit confused, with my head full of Chinese. For 'relatively outstanding' I would say 'good' or even 'excellent'. I tend to think something is 'outstanding' or not, that there is no halfway house.

    As an English speaker, would you use 'relatively outstanding' or 'comparatively remarkable'?
    I think that this is probably a British English thing. I would only say "outstanding" or "remarkable" on their own, in the same way that I would only say "excellent" on it's own.

    e.g. "An area of outstanding natural beauty", or "a remarkable composition", or "an excellent wine".

    My gut instinct is that, we would probably have to find some other way to express the meanings you want in BrE. It appears that AmE is possibly more flexible about the usage.

    As Skrej and Mike have said, if you have some phrases in the context where it is used, we will be able to say whether it sounds natural, or not, to us.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    Sorry about that, I didn't think of putting context. 1. is raw English more or less direct from the Chinese, 2. is my gloss.

    1. Local companies in satisfy customers needs and self profit, do relatively outstanding, because retail business with local culture, religion as well as life style etc closely tied up.


    2. Local companies (as compared to foreign companies) do well at satisfying their customers demands and their own desire for profit, because the retail business is closely linked to local culture, religion and life style.

    @ Eckaslike: my sentiments exactly, maybe this is an American thing.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    In AmE, it would not be unusual to modify those words.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    No problem, it's much clearer now.

    The only thing I think might possibly be odd is the word, "Local" at the start of the sentence. Do you mean "Chinese companies" rather than "local companies", which makes them sound more as if they are local to one area, or region, of the country? It's because you said "as compared to foreign countries" that made me wonder if "local" was right.

    Apart from that it makes perfect sense to me. The use of "do well", I think, works naturally in this context. i.e They may not do brilliantly, but they do better than average.

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    Sorry again about the lack of info. The text talks about a failed attempt by a foreign company to break into the retail market in South Korea. 'local' is then 'South Korean' in this context.

    So, this use of 'relatively outstanding' is 'relatively unique'. (little joke, no offence. Hope Americans don't really say that).

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    Re: relatively outstanding

    We do say that.

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    I think in that case, my natural inclination would be to use something like "Domestic companies" rather than "Local companies". In the sense of "domestic" as opposed "foreign" markets.

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