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Yes. "websites ... which have".
 

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Matthew you seem to once again be unable to resist your urge to hijack threads to ask matters of your own interest and thus divert attention from the OP's question.

I ask you again to not do this. I have moved the posts to a new thread in the right forum. I will advocate for your posts going through moderation before they can appear if you continue.
 

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Yes, Matthew, you misunderstood my answer. In the sentence that you linked to, the beginning was 'They put a bucket on the door which would...". I objected to the structure because it seemed to say that the door would fall on his head. Certainly, "websites can be the antecedent of "which".
 

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After thinking hard for a whole day, I think that 'websites' can be the antecedent of 'which' because 'websites for English grammar exercises' is a noun phrase while 'bucket' cannot be the antecedent of 'which' because 'a bucket on the door' cannot be considered a noun phrase in that context.

Am I right or wrong?

Matthew you seem to once again be unable to resist your urge to hijack threads to ask matters of your own interest and thus divert attention from the OP's question.
I will start a new thread next time.
 

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Do you want me to do it or not?
 

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Please stick to the point of the question.
 

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Please accept my deepest apologies.
I'll delete my previous post.
 

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Don't delete it - it's useful for others to learn from.

There is indeed a key difference between "others" and "the others" where both are grammatical in complete in other contexts.

I saw a bunch of dogs in the dog park today. One was really tiny.
Others were huge. (This suggests that only SOME of the remaining dogs were huge. Some were middle-sized.)
The others were huge. (This says that only one dog was tiny and every one of the remaining dogs were huge.)
 

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Thank you, Barb.:-D
I haven't deleted the other one you mean.;-)

Thank you again.
 

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I was talking about Piscean.
 

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It doesn't matter, mawes.
Let's follow Barb's advice and stop it, or the thread will get confusing.
 

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I don't know what you were talking about because the posts had been deleted, but can anyone kindly answer my question in post#6?
 

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Matthew, "a bucket on the door" can be a noun phrase.

A bucket on the door was Julie's idea.
 

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1. Can anyone suggest websites for English grammar exercises which have a key with explanation?
2. They put a bucket on the door, which would fall on my head when I came in.

Neither 'websites' nor 'bucket' is the noun closest to 'which'.
Why can 'websites' but not 'bucket' be the antecedent?

A bucket on the door was Julie's idea.
Who is Julie?
 

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As I said before, the sentence as structured sounds as if the door would fall on her head. That confusion is not there with "websites".

Julie is a guest in a sample sentence.
 

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For some reason, I can't get to page 1 of this thread any more so I'm not sure if this has been said before: "Websites for English grammar" can be worded "English grammar websites". If that were done, the sentence would read:

Can anyone suggest any English grammar websites which have an answer key, with explanations?
 

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1. Can anyone suggest websites for English grammar exercises which have a key with explanation?
2. They put a bucket on the door, which would fall on my head when I came in.

the sentence as structured sounds as if the door would fall on her head.
Is this because 'on the door' modifies 'put' instead of 'bucket' in 2?

That confusion is not there with "websites".
Is this because 'for English grammar exercises' modifies 'websites' instead of 'suggest' in 1?

I am trying to think up a grammatical reason why the confusion exists in 2 but not in 1.

I can't get to page 1 of this thread any more
Page 1 is at https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/230462-Grammar
 
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