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    Conspire and bring down

    They are conspiring with some political parties, in order to bring Sultan Abdulhamid down and debilitate the state. Because he doesn't sell a single inch of the Palestine.

    What can I use else, instead of "conspire" and "bring down" ? Are they true words?
    Last edited by Turkish is the best; 06-Sep-2015 at 20:42.

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    There is nothing wrong with "conspire" and "bring down". However, the comma after "parties" is incorrect, as is the article before "Palestine". Also, there should be the indefinite article "a" before "single". I would prefer a semi-colon to the full stop after "state".

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    Hello Turkish is the best,

    Firstly who are "they" in your sentence?

    conspire is a proper word and bring down is a well known and acceptable phrase. However, I would say that bring down is more often used in relation to governments rather than monarchs. Where a ruler is concerned you are more likely to hear the words depose and overthrow used. Once they have been deposed they are then usually forced to abdicate.

    You could use collude in place of conspire.

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    #4

    Re: Conspire and bring down

    How about this:

    They are conspiring with some political parties in order to bring Sultan Abdulhamid down and debilitate the state; because he doesn't sell a land single inch of the Palestine.
    Last edited by Turkish is the best; 06-Sep-2015 at 21:01.

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    #5

    Re: Conspire and bring down

    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish is the best View Post
    How abaut about it: this?

    They are conspiring with some political parties in order to bring down Sultan Abdulhamid down and debilitate the state; because he doesn't ​won't sell a land single inch of the Palestinian land.
    See above for my corrections to your opening sentence and also the changes I have made to the main text. I see no need for "in order". They are conspiring to bring down ...
    Having said that, I too think that "overthrow" or "depose" would work better there.

    You didn't answer Eckaslike's question - who are "They"?
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    İt is a part of Turkish historical documentary.
    I meant " The Jews" when I said " They are" .
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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish is the best View Post
    debilitate the state
    This does not sound natural to me. How about weaken the state?

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    or destabilise the state
    I am not a teacher.

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish is the best View Post
    İt is a part of Turkish historical documentary.
    I meant " The Jews" when I said " They are" .
    All of them? I find a sentence glibly stating that the Jews are conspiring unpleasant.

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    Re: Conspire and bring down

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    All of them? I find a sentence glibly stating that the Jews are conspiring unpleasant.
    I don't know all of them or not. Probably not, when we say "Turks have captured the Constantinople" we don't mean each of Turks but it takes "Turkish people" in "Turks". Also I am talking about history, there are a lot of facts that people don't like to hear.
    Last edited by Turkish is the best; 07-Sep-2015 at 19:52.

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