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    if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    If Tom had not eaten so much junk food, he would have been in better health now.

    In the above sentence, why ‘has not eaten’ and ‘have not eaten’ are incorrect.

    kindly help me to understand. Thank you!

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    #2

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    NOT A TEACHER

    'has not eaten' is incorrect because it is not used for talking about hypothetical past. 'have not eaten' would've been incorrect because the verb 'have' doesn't agree with the singular subject 'Tom'.

    Besides, it looks to me like it's either:
    If Tom had not eaten so much junk food, he would have been in better health by now.
    or
    If Tom had not eaten so much junk food, he would be in better health now.

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    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    NOT A TEACHER

    'has not eaten' is incorrect because it is not used for talking about hypothetical past. 'have not eaten' would've been incorrect because the verb 'have' doesn't agree with the singular subject 'Tom'..
    I agree. I'm submitting this post simply to make two points:

    1. I, personally, don't like the 've' contraction after modals in (semi-) formal writing;
    2 (off-topic). As you, engee, have been a teacher of English, I think you can change your status to 'retired teacher'. You'll have to check (by PM) with Tdol on this, but I suspect that it will not then be necessary for you to add the 'not a teacher' disclaimer to your posts.

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    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    2 (off-topic). As you, engee, have been a teacher of English, I think you can change your status to 'retired teacher'. You'll have to check (by PM) with Tdol on this, but I suspect that it will not then be necessary for you to add the 'not a teacher' disclaimer to your posts.
    To be frank, I'm not retired yet , I just stopped teaching for doing some other things of my interest. The case with me and this forum is that I come and go, for shorter or longer periods of time. Maybe one day, I'll get myself back to teaching.

    Incidentally, I am a Piscean as well.

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    #5

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I agree. I'm submitting this post simply to make two points:

    1. I, personally, don't like the 've' contraction after modals in (semi-) formal writing;
    hmmm this probably sound silly, but I don't understand what you had meant by point (1). I would appreciate your explaining it to me. Thank you!

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    #6

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    I think point#1 refers to the following, but I am not a teacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    'have not eaten' would've been incorrect

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    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    You are right, Matthew, but I would have appreciated a couple more minutes to have a chance to respond to a question directed at me about my post before you jumped in.

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    #8

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    I just stopped teaching for doing some other things of my interest.
    Is this sentence correct?
    Last edited by tedmc; 14-Sep-2015 at 11:10.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #9

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    Quote Originally Posted by Oceanlike View Post
    In the above sentence, why ‘has not eaten’ and ‘have not eaten’ are incorrect.
    I think the present perfect is correct in the first conditional clause below, but I am not a teacher.
    'If Tom has not eaten breakfast, I will not let him go out.'

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    #10

    Re: if Tom had not eaten....he would have been

    Sorry, tedmc, but I've got into the habit of speaking and writing in an elliptical style.

    Would this suffice as an explanation to you?
    I just stopped teaching for (the sake of) doing some other things of my interest.

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