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    first time that the coach has brought his team....

    It is the first time that the coach has brought his team to victory.

    I am unsure as to the reason for the use of ‘has brought’ in the above sentence. Has it got to do with the words ‘It is the first time….’? And why?

    Thank you for teaching me!

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    #2

    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    NOT A TEACHER

    It has, indeed.
    'It is the first/second/third etc time...' is normally used with perfect simple tenses. It's like saying:
    The coach has never brought his team to victory before.

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Kindly help me to understand why the use of "simple past tense" is incorrect.

    It is the first time that the coach brought his team to victory.

    Thank you!

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    I think this is because the simple present 'is' does not agree with the simple past 'brought', but I am not a teacher.

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    #5

    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Oceanlike, please state the source of the sentence you have quoted.

    You should give us context every time.

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Quote Originally Posted by Oceanlike View Post
    Kindly help me to understand why the use of "simple past tense" is incorrect.
    I found an example where the simple past is correct, but I am not a teacher.

    'That was the last time (that) I saw her.' (My emphasis.) ── quoted from http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie.../time_1?q=time

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I found an example where the simple past is correct, but I am not a teacher.

    'That was the last time (that) I saw her.' (My emphasis.) ── quoted from http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie.../time_1?q=time
    Thank you, Matthew. I'm wondering if there is any difference in meaning should I rephrase it as "That was the last time I had seen her".
    Is it incorrect? If it is also a correct sentence, does the meaning of the two sentences differ from each other?
    Last edited by Oceanlike; 14-Sep-2015 at 09:28. Reason: omitted the verb 'is' in the original post

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I found an example where the simple past is correct, but I am not a teacher.

    'That was the last time (that) I saw her.' (My emphasis.) ── quoted from http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie.../time_1?q=time
    Your comparison is invalid, since the original example begins with "It is the first time ..." not "It was the first time ..."
    The sequence of tenses is different.

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    #9

    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    I still would accept the simple past. It is the first time that the coach brought the team to victory. It is understandable and grammatical.

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    Re: first time that the coach has brought his team....

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    It is the first time that the coach brought the team to victory. It is understandable and grammatical.
    That does not seem to me to be to be natural in BrE.

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