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    Hope and wish as modal verbs

    I have recently seen on wiki that we can use wish and hope with to as modal verbs.

    For example:I wish to complete something like this by night.
    I hope to get your love.


    Thanks for help.

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    Could you give the link? And what is the question?

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    Some other English verbs express modality although they are not modal verbs because they are not auxiliaries, including want, wish, hope, and like. All of these differ from the modals in English (with the disputed exception of ought (to)) in that the associated main verb takes its long infinitive form with the particle to rather than its short form without to, and in that they are fully conjugated.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_verb

    Can we really use them as modal verbs?

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    I think your question is actually, "Can we call them modal verbs?" The article is quite clear in listing the traditional verbs that called 'modal' in English. And it also shows how to used them.

    About the other verbs, here are some phrases it uses:
    "behave like modal auxiliaries to a large extent" ;
    "can be viewed as modal verbs insofar as they clearly express modality in the same way that the verbs in this list do, e.g. appear, have to, seem, etc. In the strict sense, though, these other verbs do not qualify as modal verbs in English because they do not allow subject-auxiliary inversion", etc.

    I don't call them modal verbs. They are auxiliary verbs that have some qualities of modal verbs.
    Did you have a question about their usage?

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    As the passage you quted makes clear., they are not modal verbs. Some feel that they express modality in some way; that does not make them modal verbs.

    (Cross-posted with Ray).

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    Yes,Raymott,I do have questions about their usage esp when they appear to have the same effect as modal verb.

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    Good. What are those questions?

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    We hope to have finished the project by the end of march.
    I need some more examples to understand how some other verbs which are not modal verbs can be used in the same way as modal verbs,Like in the post 4.
    I am not clear on what kind of verbs describe the mood of a human being.




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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    It's not really 'in the same way'. It is simply that the writer of the words you quoted feels that some verbs, such as 'want' and 'need' express the speaker's mood to a degree. Verbs like 'plan' do not. I don't find this particularly helpful for learners. I see no advantage in working out whether such verbs express a modal idea; what is important for the learner is to know whether they are followed by a gerund or an infinitive.

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    Re: Hope and wish as modal verbs

    Quote Originally Posted by gurpreetgill4u View Post
    Yes,Raymott,I do have questions about their usage esp when they appear to have the same effect as modal verb.
    Possibly can have an effect similar to a modal verb, but that doesn't make it one.

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