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    #1

    not only ... but (also)

    1. Not only you but also I am wrong.
    2. Not only you but I am wrong.
    Are the above sentences acceptable?

    https://www.englishforums.com/Englis...jclqv/post.htm

    http://www.english-test.net/forum/vi...=577358#577358
    Last edited by sitifan; 18-Sep-2015 at 16:37.
    I need native speakers' help.

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    #2

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    I think 'Both you and I are wrong' is the natural way to say it, but I am not a teacher.

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    #3

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    What point are you making by posting that link? Showing that Matthew is correct?

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    Re: not only ... but (also)

    Matthew is not a native speaker. I only need native speakers' advice.
    No sooner had I gotten native speakers' help at other places than I closed the thread.
    Last edited by sitifan; 19-Sep-2015 at 04:14.
    I need native speakers' help.

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    #5

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    Matthew is not a native speaker. I only need native speakers' advice.
    I have already got native speakers' help at other places, so I close the thread.
    And I have reopened the thread to point out that you have twice contravened this forum rule:

    When making changes, please make a new post. Do not change things in the original.

    Your changes make nonsense of subsequent posts.

    Why post here if you have already got native speakers' help elsewhere?

    Your questions are not welcome here if you are going to specify that you only want native speakers' help.

    Five native speakers 'Liked' Matthew's post. You didn't even 'Thank' him for it. If it had been wrong, one of us would have said so.

    Please show more respect for those trying to help you, or else stick to other forums whose help you value more.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 18-Sep-2015 at 18:01.

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    #6

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    In my five years of playing in forums, I have frequently pointed out the mistakes made by non teachers and non-native speakers when they respond unhelpfully to questions. I have also frequently had to point out the mistakes made by some native speakers and 'teachers' (and native speaking 'teachers').

    I continue to be impressed by the responses of some non-native speakers and non-teachers. Their understanding of the problems learners face, and their ability to provide constructive responses are a useful lesson to those who think that only native speakers and teachers are capable of responding effectively in forums such as this.

    I sometimes remind members that the list of distinguished grammarians who have helped our understanding of the way English works includes, in the last hundred years, such highly respected grammarians as Christophersen, Declerck, Jespersen, Kruisinga, Poutsma, Sandved, Zandvoort (and many others), none of them native speakers.

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    #7

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    For what it's worth, I find english-test.net to be a vastly inferior forum than this or English Forums. The moderators at e-t.n are egomaniacs and if you dare point out an error in a response, you're likely to have your post deleted.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #8

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post

    Why post here if you have already got native speakers' help elsewhere?

    The time sequence is wrong!
    I had first posted my question here, but no native speakers responded. Then I posted my question at other places. When I got native speakers' help at other places, I closed the thread here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Five native speakers 'Liked' Matthew's post. If it had been wrong, one of us would have said so.
    Thank you for informing me of that.
    Last edited by sitifan; 19-Sep-2015 at 08:52.
    I need native speakers' help.

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    #9

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    The time sequence is wrong!
    What time sequence? there is only one verb in each of your original sentences, and there are no time-related words.

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    #10

    Re: not only ... but (also)

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    What time sequence?
    The sequence in which the OP posted the questions on different forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    none of them native speakers.
    I think something is missing above, but I am not a teacher.

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