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    Omitting subject

    Hi friends,

    I would like to ask you about omitting subject. We can easily see that in formal documents, contracts or lists, the subjects are usually scrapped out. This is, to me, not actually the imperative mood. Since I need to translate those documents to English, I have some questions that need to answer:

    - When I omit the subject, what should I do with to be or auxiliary verbs?
    - What does the main verb become? Present participle/gerund, to-infinitive or bare infinitive?
    - If there is negative, what should I do?
    - Tense of verb

    I find this kind of writing fairly common on news headline (newspapers, magazines) or short news running through the TV screen at the bottom line. It's like some sort of style, but I cannot find out what it is and so I am not able to translate my documents.

    Please, enlighten me on this. Thank you!
    Last edited by Creamcake; 23-Sep-2015 at 03:02.

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    Re: Omitting subject

    This is too general a question to respond to effectively. Can you give us some examples of the type of sentence you are talking about?

    In a headline such as Putin to meet Obama, We take it to mean something like (It has been announced that) Putin (is (scheduled)) to meet Obama.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 22-Sep-2015 at 07:54. Reason: Fixing typo. (I left the subject out of 'Fixing typo' for the sake of brevity.)

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    Re: Omitting subject

    Yes, this is just what I am looking for. But the point is I don't know which part to omit, which part not to.

    And in another example, I am trying to translate a contract and encountering an Article about responsibilities of a Party. I think repeatedly writing "Party B shall (not)" at the beginning of every terms is unnecessary, and somewhat silly if we are to write a formal document, just like in the headline of newspaper you provided.

    Therefore I am really eager to hear more about this "style" because I have been searching for it for long but find few or no answer. Thanks!

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    Re: Omitting subject

    The language of legal documents is often rather tortuous to the layman. If you are translating official documents, I would advise you not to omit anything - you might unknowingly change the sense of the original.

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    Re: Omitting subject

    Ok, thank for your help!

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    #6

    Re: Omitting subject

    Creamcake, clicking on the 'Thank' button can obviate the need for a new post saying 'Thanks'; such is one of the many unwritten rules on this forum.

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    #7

    Re: Omitting subject

    Quote Originally Posted by Creamcake View Post
    Hi friends,

    the subjects are usually crapped out.
    I don't know what you think this means, but it doesn't mean whatever you think it means.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Omitting subject

    I guess it might be supposed to mean 'left out'. If Creamcake has a background in graphics it might even be a mistaken version of 'cropped'. ...

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    Re: Omitting subject

    That's a generous interpretation :)
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Omitting subject

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    I don't know what you think this means, but it doesn't mean whatever you think it means.
    Fixed! I missed the letter "s". So sorry
    Last edited by Creamcake; 23-Sep-2015 at 03:10.

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