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    #1

    protrude over or protrude above

    Hello.

    What I am interested in is whether the use of "protrude over or protrude above" is dependent on physical conditions or it is the matter of collocation, that is, which words go together well.

    I assume that in the case of "protrude over", a vertical distance between two thing may be so small that they can be touching each other or covering each other.

    On the other hand, in the case of "protrude above", a vertical distance between two thing may be large and they don't touch each other or cover each other.


    Do you think my reasoning is right?

    Please put me right on that if need be.

    Thank you.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    Your understanding of protrude is incorrect. The thing protruding must be in or a part of the substance protruded from.

    I haven't done a lot of research- that's your job- but to my ear, protrude over is incorrect and protrude above is redundant. Protrude from is best.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    I have seen a few examples of "protrude over" and "protrude above" used on the Internet.
    I don't question your reply.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post
    I have seen a few examples of "protrude over" and "protrude above" used on the Internet.
    I don't question your reply.
    Can you cite your examples?

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    A manhole cover protrudes over the road surface.

    A roof protrudes over a house.
    Last edited by JACEK1; 14-Oct-2015 at 05:56.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    I found the following:

    'Manhole cover protrudes 3-4" above road surface.' ── quoted from https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/16528

    'The roof protrudes over the house by an inch or so.'── quoted from http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/albu...1193/402195200
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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    What conclusions should I draw?:

    'Manhole cover protrudes 3-4" above road surface.' means 'Manhole cover surely comes into contact with the road surface at some point and it can't be staying off the ground as if it were in a state of weightlessness.'

    What would happen if the sentence read: 'Manhole cover protrudes 3-4" over road surface.'? Would the meaning be different?

    What do you think?

    Thank you.

    I think it's a question of collocation.

    In the meantime, I looked up 'Manhole cover protrudes over' on the Internet but I haven't found any example of 'Manhole cover protrudes over' used on the Internet.

    It looks like there is nothing for it but to come to grips with it.

    Maybe it is a question of big and small things.
    Last edited by JACEK1; 13-Oct-2015 at 20:13.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    'If you were to be on top of the roof looking down, you would not see the front edge of the gutter, because the cover protrudes over it.'── quoted from http://guttercoverkc.com/nose-forward-design/

    Having read the above, I think 'something protrudes over something else by xxx inches' does not mean 'something is above something else by xxx inches'.
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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    Surely I would not say 'something is above something else by xxx inches'. I woud rather say 'something is over something else by xxx inches'.

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    Re: protrude over or protrude above

    Quote Originally Posted by JACEK1 View Post
    What would happen if the sentence read: 'Manhole cover protrudes 3-4" over road surface.'? Would the meaning be different?

    What do you think?
    I think it is impossible because it means that the manhole cover extends beyond the road surface.
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