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    #11

    Re: What does it mean in context and slangs

    And I chose afroamerican performer because their pronunciation and style of speech very specific and hard understandable for me. American english harder for perception because of very unclear pronunciation and fast speaking of native speakers. I can easily understand not-native speakers, because they speak like me)) UK english very easy for comprehension, too

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    #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by learner142 View Post
    Their pronunciation is very unclear for me. That's why I chose rap music. If I can get used to this type of speech I can easily understand every any/all unclear speaking speech. I tried to listen to some people. They speak fast and very unclear they don't speak clearly, not like people do on learning materials and like narrators. By the way, on through them I acquire "links" to new idioms and expand my knowledge base. It doesn't mean that I support and like this music and the manner of speech.
    Quote Originally Posted by learner142 View Post
    And I chose an Afro-American performer because their pronunciation and style of speech is very specific and hard understandable for me to understand. American English is harder for perception to perceive because of the very unclear pronunciation and fast speaking speech of native speakers. I can easily understand non-native speakers (no comma here) because they speak like me. )) UK British English is very easy for comprehension, (no comma here) too.
    See my amendments to your posts above. You seem to have some problems with your use of articles and verbs. Perhaps you should spend more time listening to native speakers using correct, grammatical English before you try to move on to this type of material.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #13

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    Of course I have. First vokabulary, then grammar

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    #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by learner142 View Post
    Of course I have. First vocabulary, then grammar.
    And spelling.

    Enhancing your vocabulary is great but if you can't connect all the words you know and make a grammatical sentence, the vocabulary isn't of much use to you.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #15

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    You are of course free to choose whatever vocabulary you wish, and I agree vocabulary expansion is critical, but again, I'm not sure how useful this vocabulary is. It's certainly not vocabulary you'll likely ever be using in conversation.

    In fact, attempting to use it might just get you strange looks at best and at worst, beaten or shot.
    Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms!

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    #16

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    You don't understood. Most of you teachers here, right? And I'm pupil here with great experience. I'll try to explain. When you live in a country where no one speak in foreign language, in order to effectively study and progress in it, you must place yourself in such enviroment where you'll be surrounded with language speakers. You must know that same word you can say in many ways. When you familiar with all this ways of pronunciation of the word, you can easily perceive everyone with all ways and manners of speech. For instance: the same word a can easily perceive from one person and ever not know about what talk another. Only way to know it is to read it on lyrics or subtitles (movie). All this types of pronunciation information of one word saving in our mind with association to the one. My be you think that one type associatied is enogh? It will result in pecieiving. That's why I try to create enviroment with speakers with all types of pronunciation. My be "50 cent" is not a best choice, but I not found anything else on that kind of pronunciation. He says many normal english words on his manner of pronunciation. I think, its useful for me. And by the way of listening I studing meanings of what I listening. Without it there is no thing to what attach version of pronunciation in the mind.
    And after that only I filled a progress in perceiving and memorizing of words and expressions. You saying grammar? Look, how child progressing in acqiring language skills. First he styding words and sayings and learn to perceive people without that boring rules, that can easily cause aversion of some kind of pupils, I think. Only when he acqired that skills he began to study rools in a school. In that acpect I'm a child because, I'm growth in enviroment where I havent that experience which have American or UK people from childhood.

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    #17

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    Communication with you useful for me too.

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    #18

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    The language used in rap is often what is known as an anti-language. This is a form of slang that uses the words from the mainstream language, but uses them in a way that is closed to outsiders. This means that even when you are clear on the words that are being said, the meaning may escape you. For example, once you work out that buss is a way of saying bust, it doesn't help unless you know that the phrase to bust a cap is to shoot someone. You're dealing with more than one level of complexity here- the pronunciation plus a very heavy use of slang that requires a knowledge of what they mean with those words. He may, as you say, use many normal words, but the way he's using them may be something very different. Anti-languages are meant to be hard or, preferably, impossible for an outsider to understand.
    Last edited by Tdol; 19-Oct-2015 at 08:10.

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    #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    And spelling.

    Enhancing your vocabulary is great but if you can't connect all the words you know and make a grammatical sentence, the vocabulary isn't of much use to you.
    How to connect them I'll learn from listening language carriers. For that I must to learn to perceive them. I hope you get now connection.

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    #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    The language used in rap is often what is known as an anti-language. This is a form of slang that uses the words from the mainstream language, but uses them in a way that is closed to outsiders. This means that even when you are clear on the words that are being said, the meaning may escape you. For example, once you work out that buss is a way of saying bust, it doesn't help unless you know that the phrase to bust a cap is to shoot someone. You're dealing with more than one level of complexity here- the pronunciation plus a very heavy use of slang that requires a knowledge of what they mean with those words. He may, as you say, use many normal words, but the way he's using them may be something very different. Anti-languages are meant to be hard or, preferably, impossible for an outsider to understand.
    My be it is so. But such persons often in the movies that I watch and I'd like to know about what they talk. My nature is such to know everything even grammar when its time approached.

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