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    Direct/Indirect Speech

    #1 The principal said," why didn't you attend the flag hoisting ceremony, Arjun ?"

    Answer 1: The principal asked Anuj why he hadn't attended the flag hoisting ceremony. (My answer)

    Answer 2: The principal asked Anuj why he didn't attend the flag hoisting ceremony. (Book answer)

    I read a rule saying we change past simple in Past perfect tense. Then Why in this particular example it doesn't follow this rule. (According to Book my answer is wrong).

    #2 I shall remain here and the tailor won't be able to find me," said she.

    Answer 1: She said that she would remain there and the tailor would not find her.(my answer)

    Answer 2: She said that she should remain there and the tailor would not find her. (book answer)

    We use "shall" with first person pronoun and "will" with second and third person pronoun. Then why my answer is incorrect?

    Is it true that we always use "shall" in interrogative sentences?

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    Re: Direct/Indirect Speech

    I agree with the book for the first example. Indirect speech should, where possible, match the direct speech. I disagree with the book's second answer.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I agree with the book for the first example. Indirect speech should, where possible, match the direct speech.
    Sorry but, I didn't understand what do you mean? How can we find when we have to change "past simple" into "past perfect" and when we not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taruns1008 View Post
    #1 The principal said," why didn't you attend the flag hoisting ceremony, Arjun ?"

    Answer 1: The principal asked Anuj why he hadn't attended the flag hoisting ceremony. (My answer)
    Answer 2: The principal asked Anuj why he didn't attend the flag hoisting ceremony. (Book answer)
    This is one of those rare times when I don't agree with ems. I think that backshifting is (almost) always correct, and that taruns's indirect-speech version of the first is correct and natural. I think the book answer is also possible.

    Answer 1: She said that she would remain there and the tailor would not find her.(my answer)
    Answer 2: She said that she should remain there and the tailor would not find her. (book answer)
    I agree that taruns's answer is correct and that the book answer is incorrect.
    Is it true that we always use "shall" in interrogative sentences?
    'Shall' is the natural choice in first-person (singular and plural ) questions in some contexts in most varieties of English.

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    Re: Direct/Indirect Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by taruns1008 View Post
    How can we find when we have to change "past simple" into "past perfect" and when we not?
    'It is not necessary to backshift past tenses when the meaning is clear.'── quoted from https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/t...=1#post1181413

    The following is an example where backshift is not necessary because the meaning is clear.

    Cindy said, "The sun was shining when I left."
    Cindy said that the sun was shining when she left.
    ── quoted from the same thread.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 18-Oct-2015 at 11:28. Reason: Fixed the URL.
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    Re: Direct/Indirect Speech

    He said, 'I had a weird dream recently.'
    He said he had a weird dream recently.

    I think backshift is not necessary above because the meaning is clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscean View Post
    I don't agree with ems. I think that backshifting is (almost) always correct ...
    If I have understood her post correctly, she didn't say that backshifting was not correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    If I have understood her post correctly, she didn't say that backshifting was not correct.
    I think ems is quite capable of speaking for herself.

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    Can I conclude that Both version (with past simple and past perfect) are always correct? And we consider exam point of view and are given both option (as given in my #1), which answer should we choose?

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    Re: Direct/Indirect Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    He said, 'I had a weird dream recently.'
    He said he had a weird dream recently.

    I think backshift is not necessary above because the meaning is clear.

    I think you are wrong. I think it should be "He said that he'd had..."
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    Re: Direct/Indirect Speech

    Quote Originally Posted by taruns1008 View Post
    And we consider exam point of view and are given both option (as given in my #1), which answer should we choose?
    It depends on the board that runs the examination you are taking.
    Last edited by bhaisahab; 18-Oct-2015 at 21:40. Reason: Small typo.

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