Object Complement?

[jasonkhlim]

'Your mother, who went out with some random guys, is the only reason you exist.'
I think the reason here is 'your mother' instead of 'went out with some random guys'.

I see, Thank you, Matthew Wai.
But sorry, I have a last question here.
''It makes me look desperate.''

''look desperate'' is object complement in this sentence?

 

[TheParser]

1. ''My supervisor considers his least favorite duty dealing with customers.''



Is ''dealing with customers'' ... an adjectival phrase?

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

I have been waiting 24 hours for someone to answer the OP's question, for I, too, want to know the answer.

I have been checking my books and googling like mad. I have found some information that I think answers that question, but I do not have the confidence to give a "Yes" or "No" to that question.

"He considers his favorite duty talking to famous people."

1. I believe that "everyone" parses a gerund phrase as a noun phrase.

2. One source gives this sentence: "Do you consider memorization of vocabulary learning?"

a. The source says that the gerund functions as an NP [noun phrase].

3. In my research, I was reminded that the objective complement often implies a copular relationship.

a. That is to say, the sentence actually means "He considers his favorite duty to be talking with famous people."

i. And further refined: "His favorite duty is talking with famous people."

(a) Most books would, I believe, label "talking with famous people" as a so-called predicate nominative in 3ai.



The source for 2a is Ms. Nancy Sullivan in her 2014 book Essential Grammar (thanks to Google).

 

[Matthew Wai]

which means sometimes participial phrase can replace a relative clause?

I think that is the case with the following:
'Ask the guy who is sitting there.'
'Ask the guy sitting there.'

He is watching me while playing video game

I take it to mean 'He is watching me and playing a video game at the same time'.

 

[Osbri]

But sorry, I have a last question here.
''It makes me look desperate.''

''look desperate'' is object complement in this sentence?

I think "look desperate" might be a causative verb or an object verb or like you said, an object complement but we'll see what others have to say.

(a) Most books would, I believe, label "talking with famous people" as a so-called predicate nominative in 3ai.

I think it can also be an appositive phrase.

I take it to mean 'He is watching me and playing a video game at the same time'.

I think you are right so I crossed it out. What do you think about

He is watching while I'm playing a video game.

?

 

[emsr2d2]

Osbri, you seem to have missed three times now that it's "a​ video game" and that a sentence needs to end with a full stop.

 

[Osbri]

Sorry

 

[emsr2d2]

Sorry.

Don't be sorry, just try to get it right. See above.

 

[Matthew Wai]

What do you think about
He is watching while I'm a playing video game.
?

I would say 'I am playing a video game, and he is watching me'.

 

[emsr2d2]

I would say "He is watching me play a video game". I wouldn't bother with "while I was playing".

 

[TheParser]

''It makes me look desperate.''

''look desperate'' is object complement in this sentence?

***** NOT A TEACHER *****


1. One of my favorite books gives this sentence: "He made me go."

That book says that there are two ways to parse that sentence.

a. "Me" is the object; "go" (without the "to") is an objective complement.

b. "Me (to) go" is an infinitive phrase/clause; it is the object of the verb "made."

i. After some verbs such as "make," the infinitive loses its "to": "The sad movie made me cry." [That's my example, not the book's.]

*****

I favor one of those interpretations, but I will keep my choice to myself.

Authority: Pence and Emery, A Grammar of Present-Day English (1947).

 

[twlost]

''My supervisor considers his least favorite duty dealing with customers.''
...
Are they adjectival phrases?

*** Not A Teacher ***

From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/consider ,
the definition of "consider" in your sentence is "(2) to think or deem to be; regard as", which has nouns (liberal) or adjective phrases (essential) as object complement.

From "A Comprehensive Grammar of the English Language" p.1200,
"dealing with customers" is the prepositional complement of "as" in the prepositional verb "consider ...as", where "as" is an optional preposition.

 

[twlost]

*** Not A Teacher ***

No. Quirk et al call adjective phrases after consider (with or without as) prepositional object complements. If an -ing form is used instead of, or before, the adjective phrase, they say we now have a nominal -ing clause.

(1) Quirk et al list 4 different complementation types for the verb "consider": B3,C1,C2,C4. (p.1196)

(2) "Following a complex transitive verb and a direct object, the prepositional complement of as functions semantically as an attribute, and may be termed a 'prepositional object complement' in the same way as the noun phrase following a transitive prepositional verb is called a prepositional object:
...
Consider as,like regard as,class as, etc, therefore exemplifies yet another type of prepositional verb: one that is followed by a prepositional object complement rather than a prepositional object." (p.1200)

(3) Nominal -ing clause may function as prepositional complement. (p.1063)

 

[MikeNewYork]

I have never heard the term "prepositional complement" and I hope to never see it again. It is an example of new terminology just for the sake of new terminology.

 

[Matthew Wai]

"dealing with customers" is the prepositional complement of "as" in the prepositional verb "consider ...as", where "as" is an optional preposition.

I consider 'dealing with customers' to be the object of the preposition 'as', and I consider 'to be' more natural than 'as' after 'consider'.

Nominal -ing clause may function as prepositional complement.

I consider it a gerund phrase acting as the object of a preposition.

 

[MikeNewYork]

As far as I know, a preposition is a monofunctional part of speech. It takes a prepositional object. Once a prepositional phrase is created it can function in more than one way. A complement completes the word it refers to. The prepositional object does that. So prepositional complement is a meaningless phrase for me. If you like it, keep it, but it adds nothing to our understanding of prepositions. I would like to freeze terminology when it is not useful except for giving academics something to publish.

 

[Matthew Wai]

The more terminology, the more confused learners like me are.

 

[MikeNewYork]

English is getting to be as bad as business with its jargon.

 

[Tdol]

The more terminology, the more confused learners like me are.

That is a problem. I have seen the name for the be + -ing verb form change a number of times, with competing terms in use today, though the last term suggested doesn't seem to have taken off. There's no central body to decide on these things, so I am afraid that we have to muddle through the best we can. However, on the bright side, the confusion does not seem to have prevented you from reaching native speaker level, so it can't all be bad.