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    going bad or gone bad

    In the letter which Benedict Cumberbatch wrote to Santa Claus, I have a question.

    ""This is what I'd like to ask you to help with. A little more time for children to be children. Stretch the moment of magic and playfulness. Distract them from the realities of a world gone mad so that they can laugh with their breath rather than sob with their tears. "

    Why is "a world gone mad" instead of "a world going mad"? Is it grammatically right?

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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    It's grammatically correct. He thinks the world has already gone mad.

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    #3

    Re: going bad or gone bad

    It's short for "a world that has/had gone mad."
    Edit: cross-posted with Rover_KE

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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    So we can say, "milk gone bad" is short for "milk that has gone bad". a child that has gone home=a child gone home?

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    #5

    Re: going bad or gone bad

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonlulu_2000 View Post
    So we can say, "milk gone bad" is short for "milk that has gone bad".
    Yes; "gone" means "become" here.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonlulu_2000 View Post
    a child that has gone home=a child gone home?
    It's possible, but that's more unusual. That structure is more common with "gone" in the sense of "become."

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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonlulu_2000 View Post
    "milk gone bad" is short for "milk that has gone bad".
    If so, can we say 'Never drink milk gone bad'?
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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    It's not colloquial, Matthew.

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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    If so, can we say 'Never drink milk gone bad'?
    This AmE speaker sees nothing wrong with that.

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    Re: going bad or gone bad

    'Something gone adjective' is short for 'Something that has/had gone adjective'.
    Can 'gone' be replaced with other past particples?
    For example, can we say 'the guy fallen sick' and 'the people gotten impatient'?
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    #10

    Re: going bad or gone bad

    What? Is Santa a cosmic social worker now? I thought he just delivered presents.

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