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    Question sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    Dear all,
    Could you help me and explain how to choose the correct forms of words (singular vs. plural verb, countable vs. uncountable quantifier) in the following context, please?
    I’ve been teaching for years, but this sentence appeared to be really tricky for me:

    How much sugar and apples goes into this pie?
    How much sugar and apples go into this pie?
    How many apples and sugar go into this pie?
    (All these sound a little awkward to me)

    (Then, the variants that seem by far more inadequate)
    How much apples and sugar goes into this pie?
    How many apples and sugar goes into this pie?
    How many sugar and apples go into this pie?

    (Or should I better say something of a kind, to be on the safe side)
    How many apples and how much sugar goes into this pie?
    How much sugar and how many apples go into this pie?

    Thank you very much for your expert opinion!

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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    Why not just say something like "What are the quantities of apples and sugar needed for this pie?".
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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Why not just say something like "What are the quantities of apples and sugar needed for this pie?".
    Thank you! Great choice! I would have made a similar statement, if I weren't that interested in the very sentence I mentioned in my first post

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    Quote Originally Posted by eva-selanty-eva View Post

    (Or should I better say something of a kind, to be on the safe side)
    How many apples and how much sugar goes into this pie?
    How much sugar and how many apples go into this pie?
    Yes.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    I would only use the ones you call the safe side, or an alternative like Bhaisahab's.

    How much sugar and apples go into this pie?
    How many apples and sugar go into this pie?
    These wouldn't work in writing, but are the kind of thing people might say. I prefer the plural verb, but they are still a bit of a mess.

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    Dear all,

    I am really grateful to you for your replies and I appreciate your opinion a lot! Now I feel much more confident about the statements like the one in my query.

    Thank you very much!

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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    Of course, if you were actually baking a pie you would be measuring both sugar and apples by the cup.

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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    In that case you could say, 'How much sugar and apple goes into this pie?'
    I am not a teacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarheel View Post
    Of course, if you were actually baking a pie you would be measuring both sugar and apples by the cup.
    Not in the UK, you wouldn't.

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    Re: sing vs. plural verb and countable vs. uncountable quantifier in one sentence

    To be honest, I just peel and slice until the pile looks like it's the right size. If you asked me the quantity of sliced apples, I'd have no idea. But I can tell you 6-7 small-medium apples for an 8" pie and 8-9 small-medium apples for a 9" pie.

    I'm not sure I could tell you how much sugar either - aside from "what looks right."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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