[Grammar] I need help with 2 easy sentences

[ledita]

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[GoesStation]

This would be more formal grammar: "He's [STRIKE]that[/STRIKE] the kind of friend that[STRIKE]/who[/STRIKE] stays with you till the end." I think who would be more common in conversational AmE.

"I remember when all (of) the people were hating (on) me." Hating on me is current in AmE slang. The first bit is OK with or without of. A more natural sentence might be I remember when everybody was hating on me.

 

[ledita]

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[GoesStation]

It's poetry, so the rules for punctuation and capitalization are relaxed. In that context, it's fine.

 

[Tarheel]

Perhaps:

You were there for me when everybody else hated me.

 

[probus]

Excellent response. But my hypothesis is that nobody can write poetry in a second language, nor tell jokes either. I have tried hard with no success.

 

[Raymott]

I have tried hard with no success.

That's a huge leap from "I can't" to "No one can".

 

[Tarheel]

It is my theory that you have to write a lot bad poetry before you start producing good stuff.

 

[Tarheel]

Anybody can write poetry, but not everybody can do it well.

 

[Raymott]

Anybody can write poetry, but not everybody can do it well.

I'd go further. Anyone can write what they say is poetry ...

Anyone can write
What they say
Is poetry.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Who decides what is poetry?

 

[Raymott]

Who decides what is poetry?

That depends on the need, or the purpose of making a judgement one way or another. Usually, it's not necessary.
A 'poem' with no aesthetic appeal isn't poetry, in my opinion. But others might have different criteria.

 

[MikeNewYork]

I am certain that opinions vary.

 

[Tarheel]

It's an interesting question. Certainly, if there is no difference between the two there is no point in having two categories of writing.

 

[Raymott]

The difference I was referring to is not that between poetry and prose, but between poetry and simply writing anything in short vertical lines with no punctuation.

"Poetry is a form of literature that uses aesthetic and rhythmic qualities of language—such as phonaesthetics, sound symbolism, and metre—to evoke meanings in addition to, or in place of, the prosaic ostensible meaning." Wiki.

 

[probus]

Could someone with power please restore this thread to intelligibility? Thank you.

 

[Tdol]

Who decides what is poetry?

One dictionary defined poetry as the work of a poet, so I guess we should ask poets. ;-)

 

[Tdol]

Could someone with power please restore this thread to intelligibility? Thank you.

I'm afraid that's going to be impossible as the original post has had its content removed. I can't recover it.

 

[emsr2d2]

Well, thanks a lot for wasting our time, ledita.

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