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    ' except ' Vs ' except for '

    Hi,

    being in technical environment, some terms are used interchangeably without any rules, for example, ' except ' and ' except for ' are used without any rules, except for the user decision :) (Or that's what I feel), so, is there any rule that says clearly when to use ' except ' and when to use ' except for ‘?

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    Re: ' except ' Vs ' except for '

    I can't think of any rules. But at the beginning of a sentence I'd always use 'for'.
    "You all need to come except Michael." You can use 'for' here.
    "Except for Michael, you all need to come." I wouldn't omit 'for' here.

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    Re: ' except ' Vs ' except for '

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    Hello, EMHM:

    Some years back, usingenglish.com had a member whose user name was lauralie2. She was a teacher. She taught us something that I have never forgotten. I am delighted to share it with you.

    1. "All countries signed except the United States."

    a. Lauralie says that since the USA = a country, we "can" omit "for."

    2. "We (students) all went to the Great Wall except Zhou."

    a. Lauralie says that since Zhou = a student, we "can" ....

    3. "We all had a wonderful time except for the bad weather."

    a. Lauralie says that "we" does NOT = "bad weather." So we should use "for."

    4. "At night, the street was deserted (of vehicles) except for a truck or two."

    a. Lauralie says that "street" does NOT = a vehicle. So ...

    *****

    She reminds us that there are always some exceptions.

    5. "There were no cars on the street except (for) a small white one."

    a. You have a choice here because of the word "there."

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