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    Participle Clause (Being + verb +ed vs veb +ed)

    Please advise if the difference of participle clause between "being+verb-ed" and "verb-ed" can be interpreted as below so that they can be used unequivocally without omission. If not, please advise your explanation, for when and why, with example for such difference thoroughly. Thanks.

    1A) Read by John, the poem was written in seventeenth-century. <--- Poem was read by John previously.
    The poem which was read by John was written in seventeenth-century.
    1B) Being read by John, the poem was written in seventeenth-century. <--- Poem is currently being read John.
    The poem which is being read by John was written in seventeenth-century.
    2A) Being taken by the police, Sam is my neighbour. <--- indicated that Sam has been taken for a while
    Sam, who is being apprehended by the police, is my neighbour.
    2B) Taken by police, Sam is my neighbour. <--- indicated that Sam is being taken by police currently.
    Sam, who was apprehended by the police, is my neighbour.
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    They are all completely unnatural.
    “Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”

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    So, what are the questions of those sentences and how should two types of participle clause be used correctly??

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    I would rewrite your sentences as below:

    1A) John has read the poem written in the 17th century.
    1B) John is reading the poem written in the 17th century.

    2A) Sam, my neighbour, has been taken away by the police.
    2B) The police are taking away Sam, my neighbour.
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    Re: Participle Clause (Being + verb +ed vs veb +ed)

    Thanks for your reply.

    What I would like to clarify is the concept of using participle clause in a form of adverbial clause for "being + participle verb (taken) / adjective (dangerous)" and "past tense". Would you please give me some example. Thanks.

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    Being taken as a fool, I felt embarrassed.
    Being dangerous, the drug was banned.
    (Normally, I would say 'The dangerous drug was banned'.)
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    Re: Participle Clause (Being + verb +ed vs veb +ed)

    Note that Matthew's sentence means "Because I was taken as a fool, I felt embarrassed," which is fine.
    Yours means "Because he was taken by police, Sam is my neighbour," which is not fine.

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    Re: Participle Clause (Being + verb +ed vs veb +ed)

    What if I change my sentences in a way which are to fulfil the meaning of "Because of". Would you please what is the difference between highlighted parts in identifying the time frames of such incident. Thanks.

    Being Taken by the Police, Sam is able to keep silence without answering questions until the presence of his assigned solicitor.

    Taken by the Police, Sam is able to keep silence without answering questions until the presence of his assigned solicitor.
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    They are both unnatural and neither of them "fulfil the meaning Because of".
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    Re: Participle Clause (Being + verb +ed vs veb +ed)

    I cannot figure out the reason why they are unnatural. Please advise in details. Thanks.

    Because Sam is taken by the police/was taken by the police, he has the right to remain silent without answering any questions until the presence of assigned solicitor.

    And also, I would like to any different meaning which may indicate, in time frame or whatever others are, if sentence is starting with "being + participle" or "past participle".
    Last edited by cyrusevilming; 14-Feb-2016 at 09:13.

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