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    #1

    a/the magnanimous

    In the sentence below, I used the article 'a'. I think I'm correct. Am I?
    If I use, "the magnanimous Ryan said", is it incorrect?

    “Joseph gave a better performance and he deserved to win the tournament,” a magnanimous Ryan said.

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    #2

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    A suggests that Ryan was being magnanimous on that occasion, while the would suggest that he was always magnanimous to me.

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    #3

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    Is it correct not to use an article before 'magnanimous'?
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    #4

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Is it correct not to use an article before 'magnanimous'?
    No. An article is required in that construction. You could re-word the last clause as ​Ryan said, magnanimously.
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    #5

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    Unless his nickname was, 'Magnanimous Ryan'.
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    #6

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    Quote Originally Posted by GoesStation View Post
    An article is required in that construction.
    Does 'that construction' refer to 'Article + adjective + proper noun + verb + direct speech'?
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    #7

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    I'm not sure how to describe the unusual construction in OP's sentence. A shorter version would be something like Joseph did well, a magnanimous Ryan said. The bit I was thinking of is indefinite article + adjective + proper noun. This usage is pretty rare, but I see it from time to time.
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    #8

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    I am confused because in this post Tdol told me the article should probably not be used in 'Peter is marrying the pretty Amy', where 'pretty Amy' is similar to 'magnanimous Ryan' in construction.
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    #9

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    In my view,the article is optional before pretty Amy.

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    #10

    Re: a/the magnanimous

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    I am confused because in this post Tdol told me the article should probably not be used in 'Peter is marrying the pretty Amy', where 'pretty Amy' is similar to 'magnanimous Ryan' in construction.
    But he said you could use it. He also said "Article usage with proper nouns is not consistent, so trying to synthesise a general rule from a couple of examples [...] likely to end in tears".

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