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    "We Mortals" or "Us Mortals"?

    Which is correct?

    Example: The prince has a life that we mortals can only dream of.

    or The prince has a life that us mortals can only dream of.

    I've seen it both ways, but curiously enough, the latter seems more prevalent.

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    Re: "We Mortals" or "Us Mortals"?

    Leave out 'mortals' to judge whether to use 'we' (subject) or 'us' (object).

    'The prince has a life that we (mortals) can only dream of.'

    'The life of the prince makes us (mortals) green with envy.'

    Unfortunately, many native speakers get it wrong.

    Incidentally, princes are mortals, too.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 27-Feb-2016 at 12:00.

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    Re: "We Mortals" or "Us Mortals"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Incidentally, princes are mortals, too.
    How dare you suggest that His Royal Highness The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George, Prince of Wales, Duke of Cornwall, Duke of Rothesay, Earl of Carrick, Earl of Chester, Baron of Renfrew, Lord of the Isles, Prince and Great Steward of Scotland, Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Extra Knight of the Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle, Grand Master and Principal Knight Grand Cross of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, Member of the Order of Merit, Knight of the Order of Australia, Companion of the Queen's Service Order, Member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, Aide-de-Camp to Her Majesty, MA (Cantab) ​is a mere mortal.

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    Re: "We Mortals" or "Us Mortals"?

    "We" is called a subject pronoun whereas "us" is an object pronoun.
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    Re: "We Mortals" or "Us Mortals"?

    Quote Originally Posted by en_buff View Post



    the latter seems more prevalent.

    ***** NOT A TEACHER *****


    I understand how you feel, En_Buff.

    Some native speakers here in the United States are not sure about the rule, or they want their speech to sound more folksy or friendly or conversational.

    Raul: We Mexicans love soccer.

    Joe: Oh, yeah? Well, us Americans love baseball.

    As you have just been told by Rover and Tedmc, the rules call for:

    "Oh, yeah? Well, we Americans love baseball."

    My grammar books tell me that "Americans" is in apposition with "we." That is to say, it refers to and expands on "we."

    As you can see, Joe could have just said, "Oh, yeah? Well, we love baseball." But Joe apparently wanted to make sure that Raul understood that "we" referred to "Americans."

    (Of course, you would NEVER say: "Oh, yeah? Well, us love baseball.")

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