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    Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Quote" Where 3 or more vessels lie abreast on any side of a ship ...... vessel shall not lie alongside any of those 3 or more vessels.".


    I don't quite understanding the "3 or more". Is that more than 3 vessel lie abreast on a ship is acceptable initially?


    Could you tell me more example for this kind of wording.

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    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Quote Originally Posted by kcho View Post
    Quote" Where 3 or more vessels lie abreast on any side of a ship ...... a local vessel shall not lie alongside any of those 3 or more vessels.".
    I found the extra text I inserted at the link below.
    http://www.legislation.gov.hk/blis_i...D?OpenDocument

    Quote Originally Posted by kcho View Post
    I don't quite understand ing the "3 or more."
    That's natural and common in English. It means 3, 4, 5, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcho View Post
    Is thatmore than 3 vessel lie abreast on a ship is acceptable initially?
    I don't understand your question.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcho View Post
    Could you tell give me more examples for of this kind of wording?
    Four or more tourists were thought to have been infected by the virus.
    The match was attended by one or two thousand more people than expected.
    The current drought is expected to last for two or more years.

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    #3

    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Where 3 or more vessels lie abreast on any side of a ship which is at anchor or moored to a mooring buoy, a local vessel shall not lie alongside any of those 3 or more vessels.

    The above construction is wordy and awkward.
    It is understood that "three abreast" is three-in-a-row, side by side. There is no need to say "any side of a ship".

    I think it could be simpler and expressed
    more clearly as:

    A local vessel shall not lie alongside vessels anchored or moored three or more abreast.

    Last edited by tedmc; 28-Feb-2016 at 04:59.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #4

    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Thanks everyone,

    Sorry for my poor expression.

    Quote " Where 3 or more vessels lie abreast on any side of a ship ...... a local vessel shall not lie alongside any of those 3 or more vessels"

    Could I express the rule as following picture.

    P.S ^ Means Vessel

    For example:
    Case (1)
    ^^^
    ^
    This case are 4 vessels and only 3 vessels lie abreast. Can I say this case is obey the rule.

    Case (2)
    ^^^^
    This case are 4 vessels lie abreast. Can I say this case is not obey the rule.


    Case (3)
    ^^^
    ^^
    This case are 5 vessels. Only 3 vessels lie abreast and 2 vessels berth at second row. Can I say this case obey the rule


    Thanks again

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    #5

    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post
    There is no need to say "any side of a ship".

    I think there is because vessels could also be anchored to a mooring (not a ship).

    Quote Originally Posted by tedmc View Post

    A local vessel shall not lie alongside vessels anchored or moored three or more abreast and lying either side of a ship.

    That would be OK.

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    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    I think there is because vessels could also be anchored to a mooring (not a ship).


    I don't think the method or securing the vessel (whether by anchoring or mooring) comes into the picture.
    The rule is meant to control the configuration of the vessels such that there is a maximum of three in a row, as illustrated by kcho 's examples, where (1) and (3) are allowed.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #7

    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    With all due respect to people who have responded in this thread, I think kcho needs to consult a lawyer for a safe response to the question.

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    Re: Where three or more vessels lie abreast...

    Thank you for your reply regarding the use of English. I will consult with other parties for legal matter.

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