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    #1

    since

    I got stuck with the sentence and need your help. please.

    I wrote (suspect that it was wrong):

    1)the original birth certificate has not existed since the new one was issued.


    Then corrected myself to this

    2) ...stopped existing as soon as the new one was issued

    How to say that correctly?

    Many thanks.

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    #2

    Re: since

    The old birth certificate was destroyed as soon as the new one was issued.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #3

    Re: since

    Thanks.
    Can I say it this way:

    The old one has not been valid since the new one was issued.

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    #4

    Re: since

    The old one was invalidated when the new one was issued.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #5

    Re: since

    The new birth certificate supersedes the original one.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #6

    Re: since

    The old certificate was replaced by the new one.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #7

    Re: since

    Quote Originally Posted by irinaofr View Post

    1)The original birth certificate has not existed since the new one was issued.
    The original birth certificate has been deemed invalid since the new one was issued.

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    #8

    Re: since

    Quote Originally Posted by irinaofr View Post
    Thanks.
    Can I say it this way:

    The old one has not been valid since the new one was issued.
    Yes, provided a previous sentence tells the reader what the old one and the new one are.
    I am not a teacher.

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    #9

    Re: since

    Thank you everyone for the input!

    1) The old certificate was replaced by the new one.
    2) The old one has been invalid since the new one was issued.
    3) The old one has become invalid since the new one was issued.
    4) The old one became invalid as soon as the new one was issued.

    Hope all of them are correct.

    How about the next one:

    5) The old one became invalid since the new one was issued.

    wrong?

    Many thanks!

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    #10

    Re: since

    Wrong.

    The old one became invalid when the new one was issued.
    The old one has been invalid since the new one was issued.
    The old one has become invalid since the new one was issued.

    Note that the second and third sentences above do not have exactly the same meaning.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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